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C00RSA
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16th Dec 07 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can people post up pictures of 3 point harnesses on standard corsa seats?

Also where do you mount them in the car?

Cheers
John G
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16th Dec 07 at 16:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

to the rear seat belt buckles on the back bench

why do you want to fit harneses to standard seats
C00RSA
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16th Dec 07 at 16:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Because I like them, and I want to get them before I get my seats
bieransri
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wait until you get the seats, if you put them through under the headrest then in a crash can result in them cutting your head off
smcGSI16V
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16th Dec 07 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
wait until you get the seats, if you put them through under the headrest then in a crash can result in them cutting your head off


How?

Proof.
boyracer2002
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16th Dec 07 at 16:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

NO NO NO dont have harnesses with standard seats - they look shit!
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
wait until you get the seats, if you put them through under the headrest then in a crash can result in them cutting your head off


How?

Proof.


because i's obvious...with bucket seats there are specially made ''holes'' in the headrest bit of the seat which each belt fits through (there being 2).

with a standard seat headrest, there are no special holes, just one large hole for both belts. in the event of a crash the belts will tighten up and could potentially slice your head off or cause serious injury.

doesn't take a genius to work it out.
Linch
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smcGSI16V
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16th Dec 07 at 17:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by smcGSI16V
quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
wait until you get the seats, if you put them through under the headrest then in a crash can result in them cutting your head off


How?

Proof.


because i's obvious...with bucket seats there are specially made ''holes'' in the headrest bit of the seat which each belt fits through (there being 2).

with a standard seat headrest, there are no special holes, just one large hole for both belts. in the event of a crash the belts will tighten up and could potentially slice your head off or cause serious injury.

doesn't take a genius to work it out.


How or why would they tighten up and cut you head off When you have a crash?

If they did it would be banned!

Just cant see it.

As above pic shows there is no reason for them to cross over and decapitate said human being in a crash.
Ben G
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16th Dec 07 at 17:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i can't be bothered to explain it again if you can't be bothered to realise why bucket seats have 2 HOLES in them instead of ONE. fit them if you wish
C00RSA
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16th Dec 07 at 17:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Where abouts do you fit them to?
neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
i can't be bothered to explain it again if you can't be bothered to realise why bucket seats have 2 HOLES in them instead of ONE. fit them if you wish


Nope im sorry but there is no reason why a harness would chop your head off in a crash.

The reason buckets have holes for the harnesses to pass through is purely 'cus the headrest is moulded into the seat, thus by putting the holes in the belts can pass throgh the seat rather than round the sides.

Also just for the final nail, recaro do buckets with a single hole for the harnesses.

http://www.pandagarage.com/images/Interior/Seats/Recaro%20gray%20(1).jpg

[Edited on 16-12-2007 by neil h]
Adam-D
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16th Dec 07 at 20:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i spoke to sabelt personly, they said it is fine to have harneses on std seats.
3 point defintly
4 point only if the rears are crossed

Adam-D
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nova_gteuk
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
i can't be bothered to explain it again if you can't be bothered to realise why bucket seats have 2 HOLES in them instead of ONE. fit them if you wish


Not all bucket seats have two holes?


neil h
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16th Dec 07 at 20:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ah bugger yah beat me to it.
smcGSI16V
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16th Dec 07 at 21:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sparco installation and operating instructions state-

Harness belt systems will not function correctly and must not be installed in vehicles equipped with seats which do not have adjustable head restraints or backrests with integrated head restraints with no openings for the shoulder belts.

So as previously stated by myself and others they are fine.
Ben G
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16th Dec 07 at 21:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh well but it's just the same as when a seatbelt tenses in a crash, it will hurt your chest from personal experience.

same would go for the belts on your shoulers and could POTENTIALLY cause injury to your neck, not saying you will get decapitated but if you've ever been in a bad accident, you will understand where i'm coming from.
Mertin
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17th Dec 07 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Owned

And for those who say it looks shit... function over form?
Kathryn W
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17th Dec 07 at 09:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They look shite.

And from certain people that have used them in certain places, they look really unsafe.
Superlite Ltd.
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17th Dec 07 at 09:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some of the small rally clubs round here state cars must have original seats, front and rear.

Alot of the owners have harness type belts on OE seats in their astras/corsas.
Dave-Creations
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function over form and they are gonna be re mounted today in the x formation

plus the cops never give agro so they cant be illegal

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by Dave-Creations]
C00RSA
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17th Dec 07 at 09:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Where have you mounted them dave?
Dave-Creations
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if u rip out the back seats, in each corner you see a hole, i think the seatbelts are meant to mount there or summat, and then the points in the center ish, if u use my pic as a reference and compare it to your own, you will see where i mean mate.

 
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