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Martin_C
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31st Dec 07 at 15:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
anyone had both the falken 452 and toyo t1-r and can compare them?

i've had the toyos on both my civics and they were superb, but the prices for the falkens is superb for my big pimp ass bitch 20s

falkens are under £600 fitted, toyos are over £800.

what do folk think to the falkens?
Nick-S
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31st Dec 07 at 15:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i had falkens on my old wheels, cudent fault them for the pirce
EarlofBarnet
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Falkens are more of a budget tyre and the Toyo's more of a mid-range tyre. Not really a level playing field to compare the two.

Still, £200 is £200! I know which I'd get.
Martin_C
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well the way i see it theres 3 levels of tyres, cheap nasty shiters like nankangs and wanli's, mid range like falken/toyo/etc, and high end like pirelli continental (not even attempted pricing those).

falkens looks like a goer, 350z forum seems to think they're ok too.
Steev
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31st Dec 07 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Falkens grip quite well in the wet

never had toyo's
SportBoy
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mate had them on his skyline and rekoned they were crap but then some cars are different with other tyres
Martin_C
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well apparently they're better than the standard bridgestones, so can't be too bad.
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I've had the Toyo T1-R and the Falken 452. I found the Toyos to have more grip although they wear down fast!

[Edited on 31-12-2007 by 16V_1600CS]
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Place where I had the Toyos fitted called them "boy racer" tyres
Martin_C
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i liked the grip of the toyos too, did wear out quick like you say.

i suppose 245/30/20 and 285/30/20 rears are gonna grip anyway
nik
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Had Falkans once, thought they were crap. Also didn't think Toyos were fantastic TBH and most have worn very quickly.
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C
i liked the grip of the toyos too, did wear out quick like you say.

i suppose 245/30/20 and 285/30/20 rears are gonna grip anyway


yeah

I also had Pirelli P zero on the back of my MR2. 255/40/17. They gripped well
Martin_C
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quote:
Originally posted by nik
Had Falkans once, thought they were crap. Also didn't think Toyos were fantastic TBH and most have worn very quickly.


i had continental contisport 2's on a car and they were better than the toyo's, but for the money they were good, certainly suited the ek9 i had.
Fad
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31st Dec 07 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Both shit

Good year F1'sall day long.

I also rated Yoko AVS sports (used to be stock on 911 Turbos) Had the 195/45/15's my valver and they were superb.

ps I currently have Toyo's latest offerings on my Clio...ok in the dry....leathal in the wet!!!

[Edited on 31-12-2007 by Fad]
Martin_C
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i really dont fancy spending over a grand on just tyres though.

i thought the toyo's were good in the wet
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the falkens imo are crap in the wet and by u martin i would go for the toyo`s, will wear down quicker but better grip, i used to have toyo`s on 1 car after i bought falkens and now have falkens again and wish i had got toyo`s!
big eck
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where abouts you getting the tyres martin???

I take it your no interested in buyng them seperate then getting them fitted else where
Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C
i really dont fancy spending over a grand on just tyres though.

i thought the toyo's were good in the wet


Toyo's are shite, had them on my valver and my Clio came with them.....never again. Only good in the dry end of.

My mates got a 350z and he bought some Budget tyres and last winter he almost hedged it. In the end he went for some decent tyres cam to around £700ish all in. Said it was much much safer!

He's still a pusy and gives the 350z to his brother so he can drive safely in a Lexus over winter though
Martin_C
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
where abouts you getting the tyres martin???

I take it your no interested in buyng them seperate then getting them fitted else where


mytyres is £570 for the falkens, local place is £587 fitted, still to hear back from another local place which is usually cheaper.

reviews on the 350z forum and that tyre review website seem ok for the falkens.

fad your mate is clearly a fairy
richc
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31st Dec 07 at 16:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ive got falkens on my corsa - 195/45/15 and i think they are shit in the wet
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin_C
anyone had both the falken 452 and toyo t1-r and can compare them?

i've had the toyos on both my civics and they were superb, but the prices for the falkens is superb for my big pimp ass bitch 20s

falkens are under £600 fitted, toyos are over £800.

what do folk think to the falkens?


I've had both mate. Didn't really rate the Toyo's tbh, but the Falkens were just fucking dangerous in the wet, I would never have them again. Toyo's out of the two, but neither given a wider choice.
big eck
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31st Dec 07 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Martin get onto camskill.co.uk there cheaper than mytyres
Olsrey
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T1-R's wear down fast and have FUCK ALL grip in the wet .
Martin_C
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maybe its just corsas that have no grip in the wet
Dan295
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quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
T1-R's wear down fast and have FUCK ALL grip in the wet .


true about the grip, mine havent worn fast at all though

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