Terry12
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As some people may have noticed on the project forum I have a 1.2 Corsa as a project car. The plan was to fir a C16XE but have since had a change of heart and decided on a C20XE because I miss my old Astra GSi.
I was wondering where the cheapest place was to source the mounting adaptors?
My mate and I discussed it and decided against buying the full kits with all the shafts etc.
We'll get the mounting kit and tie bar adaptors and hubs then fabricate the rest ourselves.
Is it advisable to buy the ARB adaptor blocks?
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adam.d
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You need the arb blocks if you want to keep your arb's!. You only need the drivers side engine mount, about £30 ish. You can use astra gte shafts and machine some asrta hubs down to fit the corsa wheel bearing, saves buying propper shafts. I sell the ecotec pipe conversion plates or you'll need a powercap unless you can make this yourself.
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Terry12
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I'll be going for the ecotec pipe as I heard they're better than the powercap.
How much do you sell the adaptor, Do they come with gasket and bolts?
How come I only need one mount? Does the F20 mount fit the Corsa with no problems? And what about the rear mount? My corsa is the type 2 16V, I read somewhere about the 16V Corsa's not having a rubber bush fitted that the 8V did have which I need
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Ste L
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just need a type 2 conversion kit, usually about 30-40 more than the type 1..
the corsa mount's will bolt on the gear box, but the rear need's a spacer,which will be included in the conversion kit
if you need a hand fitting ect, im not that far away 
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
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Terry12
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Cheers Ste, I may just take you up on that offer
I think Chris Astley does the kit for around £80. Is this what I need? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250202192066&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015
Other than that is it just a case of using an Ecotec pipe with conversion plate, Modifying the gear linkage and the driveshafts sorted.
What the best way of doing it? I think Autovaux do 2.0 hubs for around £28. Should I get these and get them machined to take the VW bearing?
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Terry12
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Also the XE doesn't come with an oilcooler but I want one. Any idea where I can get a 13 row kit for less than £100? Like this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ASTRA-GTE-GSI-2-0XE-16V-MK1-2-3-OIL-COOLER-KIT_W0QQitemZ150196619368QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118
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Ste L
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im not running a cooler on my xe when it's fitted, not needed for road use, but if you want to do a lot of track day's it will be
just buy the conversion mount's off chris,
22 spline inner cv's - mk2 cav 1600 bigblock engine - chris sell's them too
and use corsa 22 spline gsi drive shafts
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
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Terry12
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Can you still get the Mk2 inner joints from Vauxhall? I get trade discount you see
I have a set of Corsa GSi shafts, Are they upto the job? I did hear they are weaker than 2.0 shafts.
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Terry12]
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adam.d
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The ecotec adapter plates I sell fit over the existing studs on the throttle body so you just need 4 nuts. No I don't supply gaskets either but can't imagine they will be expensive. I also make engine mounts and have a bodywork mount here that you would need for your conversion. I've put some pics on if you want any more info send me a u2u.
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
Can you still get the Mk2 inner joints from Vauxhall? I get trade discount you see
I have a set of Corsa GSi shafts, Are they upto the job? I did hear they are weaker than 2.0 shafts.
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Terry12]
well if phill sutton run's then on his 400 bhp let, and it get's hard launches at the pod, etc, and ran at totb too, i think they are strong enough on a standard c20xe
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
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Terry12
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Well Adam i'm definitely interested in the ecotec conversion plate. Do you do all the mounts to fit into the Corsa including the rubber mount?
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Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
Can you still get the Mk2 inner joints from Vauxhall? I get trade discount you see
I have a set of Corsa GSi shafts, Are they upto the job? I did hear they are weaker than 2.0 shafts.
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Terry12]
well if phill sutton run's then on his 400 bhp let, and it get's hard launches at the pod, etc, and ran at totb too, i think they are strong enough on a standard c20xe
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
I was wondering if you could run equal length shafts on the Corsa or it the shaft too wide? Obviously I'd need to fit modded hubs to take the bigger outer joint. Do Corsa XE's suffer torque steer?
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adam.d
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I only make the metal mounts + eco plates mate, can't supply the rubber mounts but there readily available. I would advise filling the rubber mounts up with silicone to stiffen them up.
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Terry12
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Are the rubber mounts a GM part or after market? Any chance you could u2u me a price for the mounts and eco adaptor? Also do you make the gearbox mount spacer?
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adam.d
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rubber mount I think is standard corsa item, or may be calibra not 100% but someone on here will no for defo. Gearbox spacer I just use washers! works every time. And you have u2u.
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Ste L
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chris astley 16v chassis mount take a nova rubber iirc
and yes, they equal lengh setup can be used, may need slighly shortening, may not, just depend's on the tollerance's on the car.. it's usually the short shaft thats slightly too long, only a few mm
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phil_sutton
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
im not running a cooler on my xe when it's fitted, not needed for road use, but if you want to do a lot of track day's it will be
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
never ran one on mine either
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Terry12
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Do you have a temp gauge fitted for the oil?
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Ste L
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the cooler was only really fitted for the worse case senario, i.e towing a big heavy caravan or trailer etc etc
cant see the oil getting too hot, just from road use
[Edited on 11-01-2008 by Ste L]
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Terry12
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Yeah I suppose I can just fit a gauge and monitor things, Could always fit a cooler afterwards if needed. I'm guessing my engine will still have the sandwich plate still on for the cooler pipes though. Can things just be removed?
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luke85
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quote:
Originally posted by adam.d
rubber mount I think is standard corsa item, or may be calibra not 100% but someone on here will no for defo. Gearbox spacer I just use washers! works every time. And you have u2u.
The engine mount used for that kit is from a nova
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Originally posted by Terry12
Do you have a temp gauge fitted for the oil?
I have an oil temp gauge on my corsa LET, Its running 290BHP at the last rolling road visit and I dont have an oil cooler. The oil temp has never gone above 100 degreees while Ive had it and even thin 5W40 is good up to 125 degrees 
Also I didnt think you used the spacer if you were Using the F20 gearbox?
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luke85
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quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
Yeah I suppose I can just fit a gauge and monitor things, Could always fit a cooler afterwards if needed. I'm guessing my engine will still have the sandwich plate still on for the cooler pipes though. Can things just be removed?
You can unscrew the threads for the oil filter out of the pump and take the sandwich plate off, then you just need a shorter threaded part from an engine with no sandwich plate on it
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Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
quote:
Originally posted by adam.d
rubber mount I think is standard corsa item, or may be calibra not 100% but someone on here will no for defo. Gearbox spacer I just use washers! works every time. And you have u2u.
The engine mount used for that kit is from a nova
quote:
Originally posted by Terry12
Do you have a temp gauge fitted for the oil?
I have an oil temp gauge on my corsa LET, Its running 290BHP at the last rolling road visit and I dont have an oil cooler. The oil temp has never gone above 100 degreees while Ive had it and even thin 5W40 is good up to 125 degrees
Also I didnt think you used the spacer if you were Using the F20 gearbox?
I've read somewhere that the rubber is a Calibra item
Apparently it's hit and miss if you need to space the rear mount, All down to Vauxhall engineering tolerances. Also heard spacing it makes for a better gear change though.
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
Also I didnt think you used the spacer if you were Using the F20 gearbox?
rear mount need's a spacer on any big block box, otherwise it was sit straight
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Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
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Originally posted by Terry12
Yeah I suppose I can just fit a gauge and monitor things, Could always fit a cooler afterwards if needed. I'm guessing my engine will still have the sandwich plate still on for the cooler pipes though. Can things just be removed?
You can unscrew the threads for the oil filter out of the pump and take the sandwich plate off, then you just need a shorter threaded part from an engine with no sandwich plate on it
Should be cheap from Vauxhall i'd imagine.
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