Hoddo
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Fed up with my crock of shit pc freezing, running shit.
upgraded about 4 years ago. Its time again but I feel out the loop.
any techies feel like rating this set-up?
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1. AMD Phenom Quad Core... 1
2. Asus M2N-SLi Deluxe... 1
3. Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1gb... 1
4. OcUK GeForce 8600... 2
5. Seagate Barracuda 160GB... 1
6. Antec Nine Hundred Case... 1
Subtotal £525.93
£617.97 inc VAT
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Links to each product in order:
1. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-204-AM
2. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-144-AS
3. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-093-CR
4. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-074-OK
5. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-122-SE
6. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-065-AN
Dan
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Richie
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The Phenom's are dying a death already mate.
You should hang on a while to be honest. Penryn's are on their way along with more PCI express 2.0 boards and later in the year there is talk of USB3.
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Hoddo
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to be honest Im not a hardcore gamer anymore. I just need a fast machine that will be capable of an upgrade in the future. I'd just like something that will let me do what I want.
My PC is 4 years behind now. So anything is better even if it is going to become out dated. that's inevitable really.
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Cosmo
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Dont go AMD.
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AlunJ
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I'd stick with the AMD 
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dannymccann
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I know Intel are supposed to be better these days but I have only ever workedwith AMD and when ive gone to fix an Intel pc something always seems to go wrong 
Anyway, doubtful you would benefit from quad core?? AFAIK OS's are only just coming round to utilising Dual Core which is what I have? I would also go for 4GB DDR2-800 instead of 2gb, can be picked cheap as these days 
Also was it the 8500 or the 8600 that X10 compliant but a fop due to it being so slow? (Im also an ATI user hehe)
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Hoddo
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been AMD through and through so not going to change.
My mate warned me that the 8600's arn't reliable so go for the 8800's
Reason I've said the 2gb ram is because it being 1066MHz rather than 800MHz.
at the end of the day theres always going to be mixed opinions about everything.
As regards to the processor, I wont be upgrading for a good 2-4 years so I've over shot specs a little to compensate for that.
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Richie
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I was an AMD fanboy as well up until the Core2 Duo stuff came out. Then the tables turned 
I only use AMD for cheap customer builds now.
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by AlunJ
I'd stick with the AMD
why ?
for that money you can build a much better q6600 rig
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Cosmo
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Anyone who really picks an AMD chip needs their head testing, worse fanboys than the Xbox crew.
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Richie
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Says it all tbh
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Says it all tbh
It doesnt 
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Richie
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Ok doesnt show any of the overclocking potential. If you want that graph, it will be intel at teh top and amd at ze bottehm.
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Ok doesnt show any of the overclocking potential. If you want that graph, it will be intel at teh top and amd at ze bottehm.
I more meant that the pic doesnt work
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Hoddo
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So any suggest a viable build then? I'd like to be able to game on my rig, but ideally I need fast speeds to process large image files and just do everything generally quick.
£500 - £600 to spend.
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Richie
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Ok well you wont need anything more than DDR2 800MHz anyway as you wont see a huge difference.
My build flies and cost £700 odd. Ill see how much it is now.
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Hoddo
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well as I said, I'm really out of the loop as regards to technolgical upgrades if someone could offer me a viable upgrade for around 500-600 that would be good.
As you can see from my first build idea, I've based it on 4 years ago so...
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Dom
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sorry to hijack, but anyone know when Intel are releasing the new stuff? Just wondering whether it's worth buying stuff now for a new system? Ideally im looking at the Q6600 (i know the new Wolfdale series are meant to be the dogs dangles at the mo, but i want something that'll last a while) and going watercooling (4GHz is easily achieved) - also can watercooling be made fairly quiet?
Again sorry for the hijack 
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Richie
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Sorry for the delay, got called into something at work.
Right this is similar to what I have. I have a different graphics card and a much higher end PSU but thats just me.
Intel Q6600 G0 Stepping Retail Box
Asus P5KC Retail
OCZ 2GB Special Ops DDR2 800MHz x 2 = 4gb
GeCube ATI 3870XT 512MB GDDR4 Overclocked Edition
Western Digital 320gb 7200rpm HDD with 16mb cache
Arctic Power 700W PSU (2x12v rails rated 22a each)
Thermaltake Soprano Silver Mid Tower with Side Window (pure sex I must say.)
Optiarc NEC SATA DVDRW Drive 20x
All that comes to £630 with shipping. You could easily knock it down by changing the graphics card to something that suits your needs more.
Dom, Penryn's are scheduled for the 2nd half of 2008. To be honest I took the plunge in November last year to upgrade to a Q6600 whilst the G0 stepping ones are out there.
I've got mine overclocked to 3GHz on really decent air cooling. Need to lap my q6600 as the surface isnt dead flat and is causing core temps to be slightly off.
You can get 4GHz easy and you can get very very quiet compressors nowadays, but many arent cheap.
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Dom
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The G0 stepping Q6600 still about?
Yeah, a friend has got a Q6600 watercooled system around november time, but the thing isn't that quiet and seems to chuck out a serious amount of heat 
Also what PSU would you opt for a fan cooled, standard clock, Q6600 with a 8800GTS? At the mo i have a Tagan 430W PSU but im guessing that won't be enough? (i know once i hit watercooling im going to need some serious power).
Also, is it worth using pelters - if im right, you place the pelter between the cpu and water block?
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Richie
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PSU defo wont handle it matey.
I've got a Thermaltake 750w PSU with quad 12v rails, works dreamy.
G0 Stepping ones are still being sold and they are advertised as G0 SLACR's as well so if you dont get one.... you can send it back.
Peltiers are expensive and dangerous IMO. I've read too many horror stories of death by condensation and most people have gone for Phase change units instead, but the cost is another matter.
Personally i'm not an extreme overclocker. I was getting a bit edgy when I oc'd my q6600 to 3.3GHz on air and it got a tad pissed off with me. Core temps went up to about 65c.... max is 72c.
Cannot be arsed with water cooling either. I dont mind noise so I've got high air flow fannage.
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Dom
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yeah, thats what i've been reading about pelters too.
Im liking your spec though, do you happened to know where the best places are buy said components from, especially the G0 stepping Q6600 as overclockers doesn't state what stepping it's Q6600's are
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Richie
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Ebuyer are still batch checking and sending out G0 SLACR's.
Everything I priced up was on Ebuyer too
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Russ
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people really over estimate psu usage. although i admit its better to be safe than sorry, 500w is more than enough for most users
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Hoddo
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Sorry for the delay, got called into something at work.
Right this is similar to what I have. I have a different graphics card and a much higher end PSU but thats just me.
Intel Q6600 G0 Stepping Retail Box
Asus P5KC Retail
OCZ 2GB Special Ops DDR2 800MHz x 2 = 4gb
GeCube ATI 3870XT 512MB GDDR4 Overclocked Edition
Western Digital 320gb 7200rpm HDD with 16mb cache
Arctic Power 700W PSU (2x12v rails rated 22a each)
Thermaltake Soprano Silver Mid Tower with Side Window (pure sex I must say.)
Optiarc NEC SATA DVDRW Drive 20x
All that comes to £630 with shipping. You could easily knock it down by changing the graphics card to something that suits your needs more.
Dom, Penryn's are scheduled for the 2nd half of 2008. To be honest I took the plunge in November last year to upgrade to a Q6600 whilst the G0 stepping ones are out there.
I've got mine overclocked to 3GHz on really decent air cooling. Need to lap my q6600 as the surface isnt dead flat and is causing core temps to be slightly off.
You can get 4GHz easy and you can get very very quiet compressors nowadays, but many arent cheap.
Seems pretty good, baffled as I said! ati rather than nvidia, hows that fairing these days?
and why amd over intel?
is it worth getting duel cards for the SLi function?
[Edited on 31-01-2008 by Hoddo]
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