SXI - Matt
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Basically looking at buying at black vtr all black cars i seem to see in the sun light seem to have bloody swirl marks what causes this? and how do i get rid of them?
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Scotty C
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A good mop and it'll go
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SXI - Matt
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Whats a mop involve & how much?
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dan_almond
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What causes this - Incorrect washing techniques, incorrect drying technique. The list goes on.
Take it to a local detailer. I charge roughly £300 for a full paint correction, depending on the wax used.
Mopping is the term used by most bodyshops who often make the paintwork worse, causing buffer trails and holograms.
u2u me for more information, where about are you located?
Dan
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Superlite Ltd.
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£80 a mop at our garage
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by dan_almond
What causes this - Incorrect washing techniques, incorrect drying technique. The list goes on.
Take it to a local detailer. I charge roughly £300 for a full paint correction, depending on the wax used.
Mopping is the term used by most bodyshops who often make the paintwork worse, causing buffer trails and holograms.
u2u me for more information, where about are you located?
Dan
this man talks sense
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SXI - Matt
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dan_almond u2u sent
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willhouse
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£300 is steep for a detail and paint correction, its about £150 around my way.
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SXI - Matt
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So mopping is a bad thing? what do they do when they mop a car?
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dean101287
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u can get swirl marks out with hand polishing- gota be worth a try before you pay 300quid. I used auto glym and meguires (sp) on my black corsa and alot of time and energy later it is now fine ( was before the winter)
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SXI - Matt
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so how do they occur? how can you incorectly wash / dry a car?
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by dean101287
u can get swirl marks out with hand polishing- gota be worth a try before you pay 300quid. I used auto glym and meguires (sp) on my black corsa and alot of time and energy later it is now fine ( was before the winter)
you can, but you will never get the same result as if you use a PC or rotary polisher. And you cant get the heat to break the product/polish down so you wont get the best possible results
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
so how do they occur? how can you incorectly wash / dry a car?
you would be supprised 
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by willhouse
£300 is steep for a detail and paint correction, its about £150 around my way.
Not really that steep for full correction.
Plus you get what you pay for.
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SXI - Matt
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Whats the diffrence between mopping and correction :-? explain then how can you incorectly wash a car
[Edited on 04-02-2008 by SXI - Matt]
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Hamish
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Mopping uses an abrasive to take off the very top layer of laqueer to reveal a nice shiney fresh layer.
Correction uses poslishs and waxes to "fill" in the discrepincies (sp) in that top layer of laqueer instead
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Superlite Ltd.
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When we use the term 'mopping' we just mean using an electric mop or portable cable polisher 
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WU-TANG- DAN
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£300 for someone to clean your car...
how much is the balding zymol man who charges £117k a go? - did the astra vxr!
[Edited on 04-02-2008 by WU-TANG- DAN]
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Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by WU-TANG- DAN
£300 for someone to clean your car...
how much is the balding zymol man who charges £117k a go? - did the astra vxr!
yes he definitly charges 117k a go 
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Mattb
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Originally posted by willhouse
£300 is steep for a detail and paint correction, its about £150 around my way.
Its not that bad, if you consider whats done (if done properly) the guy at our work reckons on a full days plus work for a full on paint correction
Mopping and correction is basically the same. Correction is more in depth using a wider range of abrasive compounds to bring the paint work back up to its former glory.
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SXI - Matt
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What one to go for then would mopping be the best one? or is correction? in your opinions?
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dan_almond
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Its the same mate. All i say is this, moppin/correction use the same process, but in the wrong hands can look bloody aweful!
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dan_almond
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quote:
Originally posted by dean101287
u can get swirl marks out with hand polishing- gota be worth a try before you pay 300quid. I used auto glym and meguires (sp) on my black corsa and alot of time and energy later it is now fine ( was before the winter)
You cant mate. Many 'polishes' available on the high street contain fillers, which fill scratches.
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dean101287
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depends how bad your car is and how big your wallet is
[Edited on 04-02-2008 by dean101287]
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dean101287
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So if they are filling the scratches they are in essence getting rid of the swirl. I see your point but I wouldnt go out and pay 300 quid without even trying myself- even if you spend a whole day on one pannel.
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Originally posted by dan_almond
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Originally posted by dean101287
u can get swirl marks out with hand polishing- gota be worth a try before you pay 300quid. I used auto glym and meguires (sp) on my black corsa and alot of time and energy later it is now fine ( was before the winter)
You cant mate. Many 'polishes' available on the high street contain fillers, which fill scratches.
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