Limecat
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I spent a bit of time scanning this in for someone earlier this evening, so thought I would post it up on here as it is a pretty useful reference for general X14XE, X16XE and C16XE tuning. The X14XE is an over square lump whilst the C16XE and X16XE are under square.
I wasn't sure if it was best in here or in the technical section, but the latter seemed more orientated to problems? Feel free to move it somewhere more appropriate if needs be?
Source: Total Vauxhall, November 2002
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Adam C
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Thanks for this, considering Im going for the smallblock xe conversion later this year, this has come in handy
My Arden Blue Astra GSi MK4 on BBS LM's Project Thread
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broster
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wow, that old even had pvd down as a contact
[Edited on 06-04-2008 by broster]
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gavin18787
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think I have seen an extract from that before but never the whole thing
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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broster
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track and race car did a nice imnstant expert guide too
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sand-eel
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excellent read
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16V_1600
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Excellent post
Maybe worth a sticky?
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broster
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just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
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16V_1600
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quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
Thing is if you add up how much it would take to see 200bhp + out of the 1.6, may as well drop a LET in there. Turbo fun and much much cheaper.
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Simon_16v
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I thought the 1.4 and 1.6 heads were the same.
Is there much point in putting the 1.6 head on a 1.4?
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
175bhp for the 1.616v
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Vaux Lad
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quote: Originally posted by Simon_16v
I thought the 1.4 and 1.6 heads were the same.
Is there much point in putting the 1.6 head on a 1.4?
As said in the guide, there different.
The XEL also shared the 1.4 head on some engines. But others were different.
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Dave A
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quote: Originally posted by 16V_1600
quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
Thing is if you add up how much it would take to see 200bhp + out of the 1.6, may as well drop a LET in there. Turbo fun and much much cheaper.
some people just dont get it its not all about cheap power, its about drivability and the way the power is delivered.
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broster
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quote: Originally posted by 16V_1600
quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
Thing is if you add up how much it would take to see 200bhp + out of the 1.6, may as well drop a LET in there. Turbo fun and much much cheaper.
yeah you have a point there, why did i spend so much of a steel crank..... could have had a c20let fitted for the cost of that one part
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RCS
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quote: Originally posted by 16V_1600
quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
Thing is if you add up how much it would take to see 200bhp + out of the 1.6, may as well drop a LET in there. Turbo fun and much much cheaper.
Where's the fun in that?
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Dave A
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tbh most corsas with a c20let fitted have the handling ability and drivability of a buttered rollerskate.
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broster
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can.........worms............opened!
ill mention 106 gti for fun too
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Vaux Lad
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quote: Originally posted by Dave A
tbh most corsas with a c20let fitted have the handling ability and drivability of a buttered rollerskate.
Especially when fighting the car to keep it driving straight due to torque steer.
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Dave A
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fabia VRS will win*
*as long as its a 60-100mph race
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SportBoy
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hes only jelous because let corsas keep showing him there rear end
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16V_1600
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quote: Originally posted by Dave A
quote: Originally posted by 16V_1600
quote: Originally posted by broster
just had a quick read, seems good but says standard pistons are only good for 150bhp.......... mine did 190bhp
Thing is if you add up how much it would take to see 200bhp + out of the 1.6, may as well drop a LET in there. Turbo fun and much much cheaper.
some people just dont get it its not all about cheap power, its about drivability and the way the power is delivered.
I'm just a horsepower whore
Loved the straight line speed of my 290bhp MR2 Turbo
Don't get me wrong my 1.6 sport is fun on the twisties but I'd love the straight line power of the LET over the better handling characteristics of a tuned 1.6
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Robin
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quote: Originally posted by Vaux Lad
quote: Originally posted by Dave A
tbh most corsas with a c20let fitted have the handling ability and drivability of a buttered rollerskate.
Especially when fighting the car to keep it driving straight due to torque steer.
You get that issue with a 1600 when you have a proper diff.
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16V_1600
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quote: Originally posted by SportyBoy
hes only jelous because let corsas keep showing him there rear end
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Limecat
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Bloody hell, this has taken off this afternoon!
I am just scanning a C20XE one in, so will post that up as well later on!
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Vaux Lad
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quote: Originally posted by Robin
quote: Originally posted by Vaux Lad
quote: Originally posted by Dave A
tbh most corsas with a c20let fitted have the handling ability and drivability of a buttered rollerskate.
Especially when fighting the car to keep it driving straight due to torque steer.
You get that issue with a 1600 when you have a proper diff.
Not like you do with a 280 lb/ft ph2 let
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