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deano87

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29th Apr 08 at 22:15

. . .what is the difference between the engines? Which would therefore indicate why the 1.7 in the Corsa C is so hard to re-map?

Are these completely different engines? Like one by Isuzu?!

[Edited on 29-04-2008 by deano87]

Warren G

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29th Apr 08 at 22:19

same engine

im sure the corsa c is 125bhp?

z17dth

deano87

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29th Apr 08 at 22:22

GSi_16v said they were 100ps/bhp, even though there is a difference.

Basically this has stemmed from the Combo thread.

deano87

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29th Apr 08 at 22:22

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Detail.aspx?deriv=26107 - Corsa C

Nope, 98bhp with 177lb/ft torque.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Detail.aspx?deriv=38145 - Corsa D

123bhp with 206lb/ft torque and 6 speed.

Z17DTR is the engine code for the Corsa D apparently.

[Edited on 29-04-2008 by deano87]

Warren G

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29th Apr 08 at 22:30

there the same engine i think

the corsa c is 100% the z17dth

and they havent brought out a new 1.7, so it must be a different map/ecu

Warren G

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29th Apr 08 at 22:31

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
Z17DTR is the engine code for the Corsa D apparently.

i havent actualy seen one of these yet deano

will have to have a nose next time

deano87

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29th Apr 08 at 22:37

If they are the same engine (baring in mind I have a distinct lack of knowledge when it comes to this sort of thing) and they are simply mapped differently, surely you could just completely change the map from one to the other?!

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29th Apr 08 at 22:48

they injectors, turbo, comp ratio can all be diffrent deano, as well as loads of things

its fine saying you can just get the map, but how do you plan on transfering it

deano87

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30th Apr 08 at 06:20

quote:
Originally posted by jr
they injectors, turbo, comp ratio can all be diffrent deano, as well as loads of things

its fine saying you can just get the map, but how do you plan on transfering it

all I needed to know

like I said, I know shit all about cars

Nick-S

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30th Apr 08 at 08:41

They are so hard to map deano becasue they use a shite denso ecu which is very hard to to rewrite.

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30th Apr 08 at 09:37

what ecu does the corsa D 1.7 have ?

deano87

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30th Apr 08 at 18:37

quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
what ecu does the corsa D 1.7 have ?

This is the point I'm trying to make, and jr kind of asked it.

I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it, which would mean the 1.7 in the C uses a different ECU to the D.

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30th Apr 08 at 20:41

ECU can be the same, parameters can be diffrent

Warren G

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30th Apr 08 at 21:17

worked onm my first one today

basically same base engine, different, turbo, inlet etc etc

i didnt like it drove horrible, real turbo lagg, no power at all untill 2,00rpm then it ripps, the older corsa c z17dth has no lag realy

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30th Apr 08 at 21:36

quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
worked onm my first one today

basically same base engine, different, turbo, inlet etc etc

i didnt like it drove horrible, real turbo lagg, no power at all untill 2,00rpm then it ripps, the older corsa c z17dth has no lag realy

Your right the older one doesnt really lag but im sure it has a smaller turbo...

deano87

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1st May 08 at 07:13

Interesting stuff

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1st May 08 at 07:17

Wouldn't touch a D with a bardge pole TBH

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1st May 08 at 07:32

z17dth engines in the c are pretty different to the z17dtr and a17dtr engines in the d.

Superlite Ltd.

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1st May 08 at 07:39

...infact, cyclinder head, camshafts, con rods, pistons, turbo, intercooler, injectors are all different deano.

the crankshaft is the same though

deano87

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1st May 08 at 07:45

Bolt on and off yeah?

I was just curious that's all

will the Z17DTR go in a Corsa B?

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1st May 08 at 07:48

You could fit any engine into any car pretty much, just how much work it requires.

deano87

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SAL

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1st May 08 at 14:30

quote:
Originally posted by deano87

I was just curious that's all will the Z17DTR go in a Corsa B?

yes, it's been done. So has the 1.9

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1st May 08 at 14:38

quote:
Originally posted by Stavs
yes, it's been done. So has the 1.9

Torquey torquey

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1st May 08 at 14:45

I plan on getting a corsa c 1.7 sri diesel in to map soon, I have managed to do the 1.3 cdti ecu, which is basicly the same system.

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