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Author Bought a new car (Astra), EML?? - POOR PIC ADDED TO 1ST POST
dannymccann
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Had to buy a new car on Monday due to the escort failing the MOT miserably. Got myself 2001 (Y) Astra DTi (X20 DTL??). Only thing is, Ive looked through the handbook but there is a light on the dashboard which isnt covered anywhere??? Its a car with a spanner going through it, comes on on start up and when you touch the accelerator it goes out, just wondered what it was??

Dan

btw - not sure if it should be in Help Zone or General so ive put it in both, im sure someone will inform me



[Edited on 23-05-2008 by dannymccann]
Tom
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Requires something sevicing....
dannymccann
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Could be anymore vague?

Do you just mean a service? Googling isnt particularly helpful as some people seem to think its simply a service indicator while others appear to think its the EML?

edit - if i had the car atm i would get a picture, as it is I got no internet at home so no easy way of posting one...

[Edited on 22-05-2008 by dannymccann]
Planty02
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Sounds like a service light to me....either get it serviced or there should be a way of turning it off (I found the way to turn mine off on my Corsa C using a google search)

Does the car have a digital odometer on the clocks, if so, the top line should read "INSP" when you first turn the ignition on if this is the service light
Superlite Ltd.
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service time
dannymccann
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Yea its got the digi bit on the clocks, ill look for insp, i do think ive seen that. Its some trick like turning the ignition while holding the brake pedal down or something like that isnt it? I see it earlier somewhere.

Hopefully it is just a service light, if it was EML surely it would be the lightning bolt thing, as in the manual? Strange though that the book doesnt mention it anywhere
dannymccann
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While im on the subject of servicing etc.....I dont have a Haynes book atm, can anyone give a brief mileage guide to what eneds to be done and when? And am i correct in thinking the x20 has a chain instead of a belt, and it doesnt need changing till 100k?
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I'd say the EML will be the same as in a Corsa B, if you've ever seen one/can remember.

Sounds like a service light to me, as confirmed by others.
Planty02
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quote:
Originally posted by dannymccann
Yea its got the digi bit on the clocks, ill look for insp, i do think ive seen that. Its some trick like turning the ignition while holding the brake pedal down or something like that isnt it? I see it earlier somewhere.

Hopefully it is just a service light, if it was EML surely it would be the lightning bolt thing, as in the manual? Strange though that the book doesnt mention it anywhere


I'm not sure mate, I cant remember how to do mine exactly but it was to do with turning the ignition on and holding the trip reset button in or something along those lines...definately wasnt the brake pedal
dannymccann
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Yup thats what i meant, dont know why I said brake pedal

Deano, aye on the Corsa I had I think it was like a power bolt icon. I will figure out that reset thing and give it a go tonight.....It needs a service but will have to wait until I can buy the parts and do it myself or until i can afford to pay someone to do it
dannymccann
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quote:
Originally posted by phazer on MIGWEB

When you say service light? Is it the car with a spanner? Reason I ask is the Mk4 Astra shows the word 'INSP' on the mileometer when a service is due. The other light is the engine management light!



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mikenoncorsa
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Car with spanner is E/M/L. As said, INSP shows when a service is due. one way to check is, key in ignition, hold reset butoon in and turn key to No.2 on ignition. Hold the reset button for 20ish secs. If it service light it will reset.
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My Corsa C (which I assume is the same as a MK4 Astra) has a light on the dash (car + spanner) and INSP on the screen for service...EML light is a sqaure with a lightning bolt in it

[Edited on 22-05-2008 by Planty02]
Steve X16XE
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The engine code is Y20DTH. It is chain driven. It's got 16v but only 8 lobes on the camshaft. Yes, 1 camshaft.

Does it feel slow? How far does the revs go? Will it hit 5k? Don't worry, it doesn't go into the redline.

To turn the INSP light off, press the reset button, turn the ignition on and wait till the INSP light flashes a few times then i will go out. Easy as reading that

Anymore about the car just ask. I'm sure i've been through it. Check out my garage, you'll see my Astra.
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its not a service light!!!

its eml.

if goes off when tapped throttle, prob a vac pipe to a solenoid valve split or leaking, check all vac pipes first.

fault code will prob be "critical system malfunction 2" which is oil level, oil pressure or vac pressure.
Steve X16XE
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If there is no power there and goes into limp mode when going up a long hill, could be AFM.
Lynny
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
If there is no power there and goes into limp mode when going up a long hill, could be AFM.


AFM? mine does thi off roundabouts when its low on petrols
Steve X16XE
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It is a real weak point (as i've found out) on MK4 Astra. I managed to get mine done through warrenty when i got the car. Otherwise it would have cost me (i think, it was 4 years ago) £100.
Lynny
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guy at work with mk4 astra had same problem, vaux said he needed new EGR valve i think it was, paid over £100 for that....iv just stuck couple bottle RedX through my engine and it helped loads, but today out of the blue it started being a cock again
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If your tank is getting low and your engine is playing up, it sound like that there is a lot of "crap" at the bottom of your tank that when becomes empty is beign sucked through to the injectors which are then not squirting correctly. With a fully tank and some of that redX and a bit of right foot clears it out untill the tank becomes low again.

Next time fill up when your tank becomes half empty everytime for a month. See if you still have the same problem.
Lynny
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thats what i try to do now, keep tank above half, but some how this week managed to use a full tank in 6 days car is fine untill it gets to just below the quarter....but even that had eased until today
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sounds like the emissions light



could be a glow plug fault
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
sounds like the emissions light



could be a glow plug fault


on y20dth etc they only pre glow below -3c though
Steve X16XE
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Why? They are only on for a few mins then they are turned off.
Steve X16XE
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
on y20dth etc they only pre glow below -3c though


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