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Scotty C
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22nd May 08 at 23:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm sure this has been covered aload of times, but i've never took the time to read in to it.

Basically, I'm finding out on behalf of a friend.

He wants to know, if you would need to mix it with regular diesel?

And, obviously, you legally have to declair that you're running your car on veggie oil. So, how much tax would the goverment slap on for doing so?

Thanks (not sure if this should be in OD)
dean101287
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you can run it on cars with a mechanical fuel fump (mainly older car). you dont pay on on the first £3500 worth I think it is. No-one declares the tax on it tho, how can they prove how much you have used?
Twiggy
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23rd May 08 at 07:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i wanna use red but dunno where to get it!
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23rd May 08 at 07:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ive been offered red of a family friend for "non road use". £10 for 35 litres.

Veggie oil can only be used in older cars with mechanical fuel pumps.
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I'm running waste veggie oil in my vento tdi (AHU engine) Wouldnt like to try in in the later type VW TDI engines (PD)

Currently putting in 10 litres after I've just filled up with 10 litres diesel.

I pay 60p a litre
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23rd May 08 at 09:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Next week I'm phasing out diesel all together and running straigh veg oil. IN winter months best to mix it tho for cold starts
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23rd May 08 at 09:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i used to go tesco, put 10ers worth of deisel in. then go in the shop and buy a 10ers worth of veggie oil.

Ran my 306 non turbo perfectly, no problems starting etc

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23rd May 08 at 09:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I run my 306 on red, bio and veggie all work as good as another.

veggie is better mixed althought never missed a beat running straight

red is tax dodging but is the same as white

bio is good straight maybe 2 heats needed at time
mattk
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23rd May 08 at 11:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
a local oil place near me sells red to people with Jerry cans, has anyone reading this EVER been checked?
DAZ1985
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Nope

Its not the ministry that dips tanks is customs that does so i've heard
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i got checked in the work van in a place near buxton they were pulling all cars and vans over.

it is the ministry that checks it,

they put a clear pipe into the tank then squeezs a ball to suck up the diesel to see what colour it is...

apart from that ive never seen any1 get checked before
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get caught with red and you will have to replace the fuel tank as it dyes the tank red.... so future deisel will also have a shade of red
mattk
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I bought the car 2nd hand the previous owner must have used red and thats where the colour has come from.... officer
d128mat
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yep thats what id be saying too
DAZ1985
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quote:
Originally posted by d128mat

it is the ministry that checks it



i know someone who works for the ministry he said they used to check but now customs do it
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possibly then but when i got stopped it was vosa
DAZ1985
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yeah probs was
pow
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23rd May 08 at 12:21   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Never been checked...
Richie B
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Use something like a 60/40 mix. Basically more derv than oil in winter, can up the veggie oil in summer. iirc.

Although vieegie oil has gone up in price a lot in recent times, so it's only sort of 5p cheaper a litre, or something daft.
DAZ1985
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bio is 85p a litre
red is 50-70p depending where you go
Scotty C
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23rd May 08 at 12:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
so 60% veggie oil, 40% derv in the summer

and other round in the winter?
nova_gteuk
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23rd May 08 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If you get the kit to convert it,you can run it on 100% fresh veggie oil.
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The kit is a heater isnt it?
nova_gteuk
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yep just a heater,they are pricey though about a grand to have fitted

http://www.dieselveg.com/

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