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CorsaSport14
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4th Aug 08 at 20:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

looking to get a couple of harness's and wondered why some are 3 point 4, 5 etc
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4th Aug 08 at 20:40   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Normal seatbelt is 3, ie. pillar and either side of your lap.

Four is two over your shoulders, left lap and right lap. Five adds a crotch strap.
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4th Aug 08 at 20:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nearly Ian:

3 point harness has one strap going over each shoulder, but both joining to become one before being mounted to the car, whereas a 4 point keeps the two separate straps over the shoulder, which mount to two different places.
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4th Aug 08 at 20:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ian is right... but so are you

The POINT refers to the fixing points.

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oh right ok.

So 4 point can bolt purely to the 4 bolts on the seat subframe and 3 will go each side on the front two bolts on the subframe and then into the seat belt buckle bolt in the back?
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I want some that i dont have to bolt into the back seats and ive seen some somewhere where you just use the bolts on the subframes

[Edited on 04-08-2008 by CorsaSport14]
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaSport14
I want some that i dont have to bolt into the back seats

you cant have harness then.

They would need to go to there, mounting them anywhere else is just not safe.
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4th Aug 08 at 21:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmmmm ok mate cheers, looks like ill have to have them going into the back seats
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4th Aug 08 at 21:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

why do you want harnesses?
CorsaSport14
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
why do you want harnesses?



I got buckets and they look pretty gay with normal seatbelts.
AK
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4th Aug 08 at 21:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and pretty dangerous to be honest...
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
and pretty dangerous to be honest...


why?
chrex
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Do it proper...You'll pretty much lose your back seats, so take them out. Especially with the 4 point.

You'll also have a choice of fixings - straight bolt down or an eyelet and clip.

The latter means you can unclip them easily to roll your seat forward or find space for stuff. I've got a set of these and i find being able to unclip them really handy when i'm putting bulky stuff in the back.
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaSport14
quote:
Originally posted by AK
and pretty dangerous to be honest...


why?

in a crash theres a high chance you will slide under the seatbelt. Its called Submarining i think?
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4th Aug 08 at 22:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
quote:
Originally posted by CorsaSport14
quote:
Originally posted by AK
and pretty dangerous to be honest...


why?

in a crash theres a high chance you will slide under the seatbelt. Its called Submarining i think?


Aye
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buckets have rigid high sides.... you wont be held tight, or as tight as would in an OE seat.

Are they fixed back buckets? If so no one can get in the back anyway

 
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