chrex
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Has anyone else heard about RCD going under? Apparently they have declared RCD bankrupt and moved to another company name in another place.
They owed one guy about £50k or something, and were stripping and selling bits off customer's cars to try and make the money, as well as selling their own time attack cars. SWo now they're declared, the RCD debts have been written off and the guys have just moved to another company.
Also they were telling people that parts were due in about the 20th Oct, which is when they were declared bankrupt, making me think they knew already...
Someone in work told me this, but has anyone else heard anything?? 
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drunkenfool
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yeah its def true, one of the guys who worked there screwed them over and left the business in the shit 
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Wrighty
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The guy who owned it had a sister company that sell import cars in wigan called car planet ltd - we visited a few weeks ago and picked up an s15
apparently all RC's stuff has turned up at car planet after they they went into liqidation.
rest of its true
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Nick-S
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there was a thread about this the other day
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micra_pete
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here you go 
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=460088
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=227297
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chrex
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quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
there was a thread about this the other day
sorry, i wasnt sure. did check back before posting but there wasnt one over 5 pages, so i just wanted to check for myself really.
Is a shame but it does sound like quite a few people have been fucked over by them. there was an evo 9 that had gone in for tuning, and the guy hadn't seen it for 2 months. when he demanded to see it, it had no engine, suspension, wheels or exhaust. they'd sold the lot! 
I think thats a disgrace tbh...that a company of their reputation would screw people like that!
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chrex
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cheers! 
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DannyB
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Yeah, some guy in warrington was selling off one of their evo's on e-gay about 3 weeks back.
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Nick-S
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the blue 1?
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DannyB
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This one
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Kathryn W
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Oh i loved it when that car went past 
There unit looked extremely dodgy to be honest...
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ainsley_brader
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A lot of rumour in here tbh and a lot less fact!
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Mobby
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supposedly they were all badgers
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Mobby
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get a read of this:
I know there is a lot to read here, but it tells the full story of what we have been through thanks to RC Developments.
We asked RC to build us a Time Attack capable car from our standard Evo 8 FQ400. Obviously with the car being a 400 we were anxious to use what we thought were the best in the business. How wrong we were to make that assumption.
The car was delivered to RC in feb 2007 with an initial timescale for completion of approximately 3-4 month. Initially the car was to be running the 600 package, then was changed to the 700 package, and extras such as suspension setup, roll cage etc were added onto the spec list.
The timeline dragged onto September 2007 which is where I became involved in the whole saga as Russell’s friend, and suspicions were aroused at the time. No work had been done to the car and the excuse was put down to the Hollinger gear set causing the delay, and RC insisted that they did not start work on any of their projects for customers until all parts were in stock and the job could be completed in one go.
We constantly chased up RC about the gearbox, and were told that it was Hollinger causing the delay. We again gave RC the benefit of the doubt who kept giving us promises and excuses, but because me and Russell were constantly busy in our own personal lives, we didn’t chase them as much as we should have.
February 2008 came and we decided that enough was enough. The car had been in RC now a whole year, and no work had been completed at all. So after discussions between me and Russell we decided to pay RC an un-planned visit.
On our arrival at RC we were as usual greeted by Danny O’Hara who was quick to talk to us. We wanted to see the car and find out what parts were at RC ready for the car. We were ushered away from the workshop and away from the car, which I wasn’t having and I walked over to the car which was on one of the 2 poster lifts high in the air, with cars all around it so it was virtually impossible to get anywhere near the car. We were always told that apart from the turbocharger and manifold which RC had sold to a customer on our behalf, that the engine, gearbox and the car was totally intact. On inspection of the car the engine, gearbox, intercooler, radiator, transfer box, exhaust and more parts were missing.
We questioned RC about this and they told us that the engine had infact been removed and that they were storing it. We then asked to see the engine to tally up the engine numbers against the V5 document which we had brought with us (fq400’s have the engine number on the v5 where most evo’s I have encountered just have “unknown” on the v5). It was then that Danny changed his mind again and said that the head had been sent off to be worked on and the block was bottom end was stripped and about to be worked on. We yet again gave them the benefit of the doubt, and a revised timetable was given.
Yet again false promises and dates that came and past went by, so I decided that we needed to know what the hold up was. I personally contacted Hollinger in Australia and enquired as to what was happening with the status of the gear set for our car, which had been on “back order” allegedly through RC for the last 11 months. It was then that Hollinger to their credit were open and honest with us and told us the true story.
RC had a large outstanding bill that had not been paid, and was from some considerable time previous to this, and that they were refusing to supply RC with any more parts. They also told us that the gear sets that RC had ordered had been sold to other parties because RC had not settled the bill. We know of at least 2 other people that ordered these gear sets through RC and never received them.
We then confronted RC in person and put the facts to them. We had written proof from Hollinger of this, and we had spoken to the Head of Customer Relations and the Accounts Manager on the telephone who had confirmed what we had been told by email.
Obviously RC had nowhere to go and Danny at that point broke down in tears and admitted that there were no gearboxes and that he had indeed stolen and sold the engine, gearbox and other parts from the car.
We then had to come up with a solution as we had a car that Russell had bought from new that he had trusted RC with, and he had trusted them with a considerably large amount of money as well. We drafted an agreement which was signed by Danny on behalf of RC scheduling work and timescale and the car was completed 1am on the day of time attack round 1.
The one exception on the agreement was that we didn’t have the Hollinger gear set that had been paid for, and in place we had a temporary solution in the way of a Drenth gear set, and we were given promises by RC that they were going to sort out the situation with Hollinger and get us the gear set that we had paid for by the Knockhill second round of time attack.
On picking up the car on the day of round 1 we noticed that there was quite a lot of damage to the car! There were 2 dents in the roof that lined up with where the roll cage had been fitted, which they totally denied and tried to fob us off on. There were also scuffs to the carbon splitter, small dents on the o/s/f, o/s/r, and n/s/r doors and one of the door handles had been “broken”. We obviously raised the issues and it was promised that they would put them right, and also roll the rear arches which they had not done as requested. On the day of round one of time attack 2008 at donnington, the car failed in spectacular fashion and dropped oil all over the track, pit lane (and my brand new trainers! Lol) and pits. We obviously didn’t know what had failed so we trailered up the car and headed off home. The car was returned to RC 2 days later for repair and was collected by us 3 weeks later. We were told that the oil pump had failed and in addition to that the head had cracked, so there was a new oil pump, head gasket and complete new head fitted. The bodywork issues had not been done at all apart from the door handle and the arches had been done in a fashion. They had been hammered instead of rolled, and fillered over and painted. There was overspray all over the doors and rear wings. Keep in mind this is an FQ400 we are talking about! Obviously we were not happy and it was raised with RC and we were again told that it would be sorted out in time, so we yet again gave them our trust and left it with them.
Knockhill round 2 came and no gear set was delivered. We competed at knockhill and it was noticed that the engine was smoking a lot. We were told that all RC’s stroker builds used a fair bit of oil and smoked. As the car seemed to be running fine and the power was there we dismissed it. Silverstone round 3 came and we hit major problems with the car. The smoking had got worse and we had problems with the car not boosting properly so we couldn’t compete competitively. Again we were told that it was a trait of the stroker engine that it used oil and smoked a lot.
As we were having problems with brakes (or lack of them) at knockhill and Silverstone we decided that we needed better brakes, so we ordered and paid for ap racing front and rear kits and an extra set of wheels. We were again totally fobbed off and only received to this day the smaller disced front kit. We paid for the 364 front kits and the rears, and another set of rota gtr alloys. We were given excuse after excuse and we swallowed it and gave them chance after chance. Lost deliveries, wrong tracking numbers, having to have brackets made up for the callipers etc etc. It just went on and on. It came to round 4 of time attack and oulton park and the evo was running worse than ever. Major boosting problems and smoking again, but we ran and finished quite respectable considering the problems we had. Again, we were continued to be fobbed off with excuses about the gearbox, brakes and wheels.
Not long after Round 4 I was involved in a serious car accident and was out of the scene for 6 weeks whilst I was in hospital. Russell returned the car to RC to have the engine checked over and have the boosting problem sorted out, and it was given a clean bill of health, so Russell decided to run at round 5 at brands hatch. It was there that the engine failed totally.
The car was returned to RC and not long after I came out of hospital and got involved again. We knew something was imminent with RC and immediately pulled the car back out again, fearing for the car. In the 3 weeks that RC had the car, all they had done was take off the rocker cover (and loose it!) and put a few intake pipes in the boot. The car had just been left in the rain with the engine exposed with no cover on, and was in effect left to rot. This was the end of the line as far as we were concerned. At the same time the whole Danny saga had unfolded.
We made the decision there and then that we would never allow the car back into RC, and negotiations took place with Clive as to what to do next. We had the engine stripped completely by another Evo specialist who is involved in time attack, and he uncovered some absolutely shocking discoveries.
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Mobby
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anouther unhappy customer:
rc developments are a shower of ****e, all of them
i dropped a mint fq340 off to them and left it with them for nine months
i gave them 37 grand
i picked up a shell, full of water , my dls speakers are destroyed, it has dents all over it. i have pictures
it is a joke. i would strongly suggest everyone avoids them.
close in one building and open in another the following day !
they were the most poorly run operation, trading insolvently and living on other peoples money
who's the losers ?? certainly not them, its me and all the others they did it to
there are three people involved and do you all really thinks its possible for one man to hide all this from the other two for so long, i dont think so,
pictures to followthis was 6 months before they got it,
this is what i picked up
[Edited on 26-10-2008 by mobby]
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chris_uk
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kin ell! :O
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Wrighty
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fuggin ell fire..that must be soul destroying
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CorsAsh
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Jesus Were they just a chop shop?
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Corsa_Scotty
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My cousins mate sent his car to them for a load of engine work and he went to have a look at at it and they says the engine was stolen overnight  wouldnt surprise me tbh
[Edited on 26-10-2008 by C2_Scotty]
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zletcorsab
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Its a shock to hear that RCD have gone and an even bigger shock to hear of the shady dealings and bad workmanship, if that was my car that was effectively distroyed, I would be suicidal
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chr15barn3s
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Those pictures are absolutely gutting! (literally  ) I really hope these cowboys do not get away with this.
[Edited on 27-10-2008 by chr15barn3s]
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John G
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I think until people know people that were involved in the company they should really think about what they say about a company and what rumours they spread to be honest as alot of what i just read in this thread has been total bull shit tbh. one guy they put alot trust in screwed them over big time and alot of big time customers and ones that arent very forgiving, by the time it all surfaced what had been happening it was to late. It is stil under investigations so until then i would keep rumours to yourselves
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Mobby
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 pictures speak for themselves, i doubt rumors could be that false, read the whole thread 
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John G
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
pictures speak for themselves, i doubt rumors could be that false, read the whole thread
I have read the whole thread, i have a very good friend who worked for RC, who for the last month or so had relocated to warrington to try and balance the books whilst the lad was on holiday. And pics never speak for themselves,
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WATSON
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John G
Enough said
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