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Sean-B
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4th Feb 09 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ultrasonic injector cleaning

reckon this is any good, i think 15% power loss claims are a bit OTT but would ot be worth it?
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is that per injector?

technically if your injectors arent flowing correctly or the correct spray pattern then without a doubt 15% loss is easily correct. if not more in some cases.
Sean-B
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gosh didnt relise it was so much, so on my 80000 mile car they're probably quite bad!

sounds like its for all 4 to me,

ive got a ultrasonic cleaning bath at work, would i be able to get similar results?
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that will be for each injector..

sean i wouldnt bother with that place..

im sending some injectors off soon to be done, costs around £45/50..

my mate had his escort cosworth ones done there (where im having mine done) and it runs alot better tbh..

and as said by nic, i wouldnt be suprised if it loses more then 15% performance..

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ive delt with this guy few times and he aint bad
Paul_J
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where do you send them off to? I've got a feeling this could be an issue with my 106, there's a slight noticable mis fire too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sean-B
ultrasonic injector cleaning

reckon this is any good, i think 15% power loss claims are a bit OTT but would ot be worth it?


If your injectors were that clogged you'd be getting EML and lean mixture problems ..
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Do they do them any different from you could do in one of the ultrasonic pcb/jewellery cleaners?
Sean-B
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hmm that is per injector so quite pricey
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Originally posted by Paul_J
where do you send them off to? I've got a feeling this could be an issue with my 106, there's a slight noticable mis fire too.


normaly find on a 106 that its water from the washer jets has got onto the injector and corroded its connections.. normaly injector 1 and 3

you got a tu lump im asuming?
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Is it worth having this done on a high milage car anyway?
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Yes. Well, for example if you're doing a re-build on an engine then you may as well get the injectors cleaned too.
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I only ask because my car is over 90k now, doesnt seem to pull/economise well as it used to.

Dad's Audi, when it had it's 130k service, they cleaned the injectors for him?

Both VAG TDi's btw
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Yes. Well, for example if you're doing a re-build on an engine then you may as well get the injectors cleaned too.


is there anywhere near us that does this ed? like the ultrasonic shit?
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I think the ultrasonic cleaning is abit ott. I would just take them out, pour thinners through them or let them sit and put them back after blowing them out with a airline.

And just pour some system cleaner through.

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quote:
Originally posted by pow
I only ask because my car is over 90k now, doesnt seem to pull/economise well as it used to.

Dad's Audi, when it had it's 130k service, they cleaned the injectors for him?

Both VAG TDi's btw


When was your last service. YOu sit in traffic alot?
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Originally posted by richc
I think the ultrasonic cleaning is abit ott. I would just take them out, pour thinners through them or let them sit and put them back after blowing them out with a airline.

And just pour some system cleaner through.




sorry mate but thats utter shite..

pouring thinners through and an airline compared to being ultrasonicly cleaned

send them to this place..

http://www.injectorcleaning.co.uk/

works out at around £45/50 for normal top fueled injectors..

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quote:
Originally posted by pow
I only ask because my car is over 90k now, doesnt seem to pull/economise well as it used to.

Dad's Audi, when it had it's 130k service, they cleaned the injectors for him?

Both VAG TDi's btw


When was your last service. YOu sit in traffic alot?


I service the car myself, did it about 4-5k ago, all filters, oil, fault check and a temp sensor and coolant.

I sit in a fuck load of traffic

[Edited on 05-02-2009 by pow]
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i would just send your injectors off to the place i said mate..

£50 and a few days, will see the difference
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_boy
quote:
Originally posted by richc
I think the ultrasonic cleaning is abit ott. I would just take them out, pour thinners through them or let them sit and put them back after blowing them out with a airline.

And just pour some system cleaner through.




sorry mate but thats utter shite..

pouring thinners through and an airline compared to being ultrasonicly cleaned

send them to this place..

http://www.injectorcleaning.co.uk/

works out at around £45/50 for normal top fueled injectors..




What i am saying its its utter shite that road going little poxy 1.4's need ultrasonic cleaning

You had experiences of this then? Work does it?
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by richc
quote:
Originally posted by pow
I only ask because my car is over 90k now, doesnt seem to pull/economise well as it used to.

Dad's Audi, when it had it's 130k service, they cleaned the injectors for him?

Both VAG TDi's btw


When was your last service. YOu sit in traffic alot?


I service the car myself, did it about 4-5k ago, all filters, oil, fault check and a temp sensor and coolant.

I sit in a fuck load of traffic

[Edited on 05-02-2009 by pow]


Fair enough. I would just bang some sort of injector cleanor through it, with the higher octance diesel and give it a good drive.

I remeber the first time did this to my dads car. It was only 4 years old at the time, but it use to have a shit hesistance at like 3.5k and be loud as fook. Banged some cleaner and v power through it, went on the motorway and it were sound as fook!
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No need to get personnal mate. Mk4boy is right. It's the fact that they pulse them whilst being cleaned. Where's yur thnners would just sit in the top of the injector
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what does it have to do with the engine size, all engines have the same principle..

my mates escort cosworth was using abit of fuel (more then it should) and smelt a touch of fuel in the engine bay..

send them off, fuel smell has gone, does a few more mpg, and runs smoother..

if thats not worth the small cost then i dont know what is..
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Yeah? Even with this "PD" shit on my engine?
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and as sean said, yer an airline will blow thr shit out of the injector but how is that testing it so each injector is pulsing the same amount of fuel at the same time and the spray pattern..

also they replace the seals etc at the place ive stated..



[Edited on 05-02-2009 by mk4_boy]

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