Paul_J
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if you're at home and bored, whack on BBC Parliament and watch them debate 'Social Networking'...
You've got loads of Old people who probably don't know how to work a calculator (as it's so advanced in tech) - yet they're debating about these social networking sites and their use.
Naturally every 2 secs they're just saying 'Well, I don't know why these kids even use these sites, in my day I was out doors'... or 'OUR KIDS ARE AT RISK! We should stop any adult being able to view or communicate with under 16 year olds'
etc etc
 I hate how the people most untouch with technology are the ones who decide the laws on how it's all used.
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Jodi_the_g
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I agree with them to a degree, I am the 'MTV' generation but I still went outside and played football etc.
All the kids around 11 now play on xbox live and think that is playing football.
I also disagree with anyone under the age of 13 having a facebook etc, as why the hell do they need it.
All their friends are going to be 10 mins up the road or so.
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Half Pint
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it is a problem that most kids are only able to socialise via the computer and don't get out much.....
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Jodi_the_g
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That is true Tony, but the ones who do get girls up the duff at 12 lol.
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nova_gteuk
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Ive been using the internet since i was 13.
Whats the problem with using it?
Im sure theyd be the same people complaining that the kids are out causing mayhem,at least their parents know where theyre kids are?
Im nearly 26 now and only use facebook thesse days its addictive soon as im in work i log on,soon as im home i log on 
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Half Pint
it is a problem that most kids are only able to socialise via the computer and don't get out much.....
Debatable...
I think the same things were being said 10-20 years ago when everyone was saying
'kids on BBC Basic / Atari / Nes / Master System' whatever... are not going outside anymore and playing these 'trivial' computer games...
The reality is, kids did go out then and do go out now...
I used to go around my mates house as he had a mega drive and I didn't. We used to play Road Rash and Sonic Tales 2 player. It was great fun...
but at the same time, we also went out, played football, rode our bikes, played knock down ginger, built shit in the woods, caused mishchief on the golf course etc.
I don't believe it's any different now, Kids will play their consoles (and imo it's a social thing if you have mates around to play with you), but they'll go outside too.
The only thing stopping kids going outside these days, is not the computers, it's the Paranoid parents who believe that as soon as their child goes outside they'll get taken by pedophiles!
[Edited on 13-02-2009 by Paul_J]
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Neo
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Facebook etc are fantastic sites, especially with most my friends having gone off to uni, work colleagues leaving and without it, i probably wouldnt talk to 95% of them any other way.
And yeah, kids under 16 probably have no need for it, but have it as everyone else does. But i think they do still go out and do the things i used to do.
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Jodi_the_g
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That's what I was saying, when you get to a certain age everyone moves away and your social circle becomes larger as you can drive etc,
When your 13 you walk up the road to meet your friends. there is no need to im each other for hours at night.
Same with kids having mobile phones, I fail to see the point.
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Neo
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Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
When your 13 you walk up the road to meet your friends. there is no need to im each other for hours at night.
And see each other at school every day If i saw some of my friends 7 hours a day there is no way i'd want them to be able to contact me in the evening
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nova_gteuk
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
That's what I was saying, when you get to a certain age everyone moves away and your social circle becomes larger as you can drive etc,
When your 13 you walk up the road to meet your friends. there is no need to im each other for hours at night.
Same with kids having mobile phones, I fail to see the point.
So youd prefer them out on the streets getting up to no good?
The kids round where i live if theres more than three in a group the police disperse them and tell them to go home or move on
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
That's what I was saying, when you get to a certain age everyone moves away and your social circle becomes larger as you can drive etc,
When your 13 you walk up the road to meet your friends. there is no need to im each other for hours at night.
Same with kids having mobile phones, I fail to see the point.
Dunno, as your circle grows when you get a car, you are limited when younger by the lack of car.
Since most mates are from school at that age, and a school may have a catchment area of say 10 miles around.
Your mates can be 10-20 miles away. Fuck walking it or biking it every day just to go and say hi. Can't be arsed with the embarressment of getting lift off parents lol.
Only the local kids (which in my area are the div kids) are probably walkable. The kids I went to secondary school with are miles away.
I just think, can't you remember being 12 / 13? You act like they're stupid little kids, I can remember being 13 and thinking I was well grown up and wanting to have cool stuff like 'mobile phones', chatting to my mates over ICQ / MSN etc.
It's not that different.
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Jodi_the_g
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nope when i was a kid i thought I was cool to have a 28k modem lol.
to slow for IM.
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Matt L
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havent really read peoples comments, but I dont see whats wrong with them at all, for people around 20's they're good to get int touch with people who have moved to different uni's etc.
People who are young (they say they are stopping in more and not going out), its because there is a far too strong pc culture now and parents dont let kids out as much imo as they are affraid they are going to get kidnapped so what else are they suposed to do?
tbh people need to stop finding stupid things to complain about and get on with life.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
nope when i was a kid i thought I was cool to have a 28k modem lol.
to slow for IM.
bullshit!
most 56k's only ran at 28kb due to the crap line and that was more than sufficient for IM
Here's an example, when I was probably 12 or so the original GTA came out - rated 18. I played it and felt it was not wrong to be playing a high 18 rated game.
Yet, when my 12 year old cousin comes round I feel dodgy letting him play the current GTA which is rated 18.  (I know graphics is better etc, but still)
I think we forget that in reality when we were 12/13 - How grown up we felt.
When we look at 12/13 year old kids we just think they're retarded, stupid little kids.
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Daimo B
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I blame poor parenting.
We used to go out playing all the time.
Now its uncool to be a child and to just play. This is the mindset brought down by our generation of people who had kids very early on with no idea on who THEY were let alone bringing another life into it.
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Half Pint
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i'm not knocking facebook ect as i think it has a place, however given what is available to the kids today they don't hone true life skills, understand family values, recieve anyparenting skills that they could pass on. but they dso spend their lives on the computer surrounded by friends and virtual friends and lead virtual lives.... when i was at school, finished school got changed stright out with my mates, home for dinner and either played whatever for a while then watched tv with the family etc...
todays kids... school if they can be bothered.... home.... out getting drunk, fuc*ed (for the ones that go out)....home.... computer.... bed...
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Jodi_the_g
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Well Okay it was fast enough but no such thing as msm or at least I did not know about it.
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Lynny
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tbf, the main problem IMO, isnt that kids lack social skills and are fat (although this is a problem), its that they think theyre old before their time and profiles on sites such as facebook attract the wrong kind of attention, especially when 12 and 13 yr old girls have phots of them on their profiles wearing next to nothing and daily updates of where they are and what time....peadofiles are having a field day!
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J da Silva
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I've only just started this Facebook thing, I was a bit warey at first but a school friend said everyone who I went to school with was on it so I registered and It's a good way to keep intouch with family and mates.
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J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by Half Pint
i'm not knocking facebook ect as i think it has a place, however given what is available to the kids today they don't hone true life skills, understand family values, recieve anyparenting skills that they could pass on. but they dso spend their lives on the computer surrounded by friends and virtual friends and lead virtual lives.... when i was at school, finished school got changed stright out with my mates, home for dinner and either played whatever for a while then watched tv with the family etc...
todays kids... school if they can be bothered.... home.... out getting drunk, fuc*ed (for the ones that go out)....home.... computer.... bed...
I was the same, as soon as I'd had my tea and got changed, I was banging on my pals door to see if he wanted a samba lesson in the art of keepy ups, or playing 'tracker'.
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ed
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Facebook is quite fun.. I've been hearing quite a lot about this new Twitter thing recently on the radio, I disapprove of it strongly.
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Wrighty
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Forums & u2u's on here are as far as i go into social networking if they count as it, used tinternet since i was a teen but facebook, msn, etc etc, its all just sad as fuck, iv got an email address and forum logins. job done
'so & so has 500 friends on bebo' for example bollox, if you really know 500 people, why are you inside on a computer all day updating the internet with what your doing every 2 minutes, or telling them what your having for breakfast. why do people feel the need to broadcast their life over the net? who cares if you took X amount of photos in a club last week? surly if you know your mates, they were there and know what you did?
why do people need a website with cocky slogans on about themselves, pics posing in the mirror and shit? what are they trying to prove? your only young once, do you wana tell your grandkids you spent your youth on a computer?
and having people you dont 'really' know as friends on the net that live at the opposite end of the country, thats not real friends is it, if you dont know them in real life, you dont know them full stop. people that feel the need to do the above, live in a sad little world
all i ever hear at work is 'facebook this, bla bla bla' 'he said this about me and she said that and im not having them as a friend on facebook' all i can see is it causing arguements, bitching and relationship problems!
Go out and live a real life, not an internet one 
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oceansoul
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i had a 14.4kbps modem when i was younger. And had to run an extension lead to the phone socket to use tinternet  i was deprived
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Facebook is quite fun.. I've been hearing quite a lot about this new Twitter thing recently on the radio, I disapprove of it strongly.
Yeh everyone is banging on about twitter...
All I really make it out to be is the bad bit of facebook... The 'status' being updated every 2 secs by idiots.
10:11am 'I'm drinking a cup of coffee'
10:13am 'I'm back at my desk'
10:30am 'I'm going to take a shit'
etc
Fuck off, no one cares.
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John
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Twitter is like texting a lot of people at the same time.
It's a terrible idea the same as all of the social networking sites.
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