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Ste

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29th May 09 at 07:23

I've been trying to find out exactly what these are; basically the green poles, about 6 foot high at the side of lots of motorways and a few roads. They have a fluorescent orange 'roof' type top.

I have been lead to believe in the past that they are breathers for a huge underground pipeline network that links all major UK airports and RAF stations so that in the event of war and roads being impassable, fuel can be moved for aircraft.

If anyone knows the facts, please share.

Google isn't finding anything for me, but that may be what I'm typing in as I can't describe them that well

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by Ste W]

I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.

AndyKent

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29th May 09 at 07:37

Quite a lot of sections of motorway are built over old landfil - more likely breather vents for the gas coming off the decomposing rubbish I would have thought.....

Leighton

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29th May 09 at 07:41

AS far as i no they are high pressure gas pipes, my dad has had a couple of sites were you are not allowad to build within 15 meters of them.
I have not heared anything about them being for fuel because there are alot around croxteth but no airports round there, also the anount of fuel that it would take to fill the network would be a negative impact, be easier just to fligh it around if its going to airports.

Fonz

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29th May 09 at 07:58

quote:
Originally posted by Leighton
AS far as i no they are high pressure gas pipes, my dad has had a couple of sites were you are not allowad to build within 15 meters of them.
I have not heared anything about them being for fuel because there are alot around croxteth but no airports round there, also the anount of fuel that it would take to fill the network would be a negative impact, be easier just to fligh it around if its going to airports.

thats what i have heard, they are designed to be seen from the sky, why this might be important for the likes of helicopters surveying areas i cant say as you'd expect them to have detailed plans of the area they are looking at, so the only other reason would be for landing but i cant think of a reason why landing near a gas main buried under the dirt would be an issue

in short, they indicate gas mains

_Allan_

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29th May 09 at 08:04

Fancy bird houses

Ludacris Turbo

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29th May 09 at 11:45

We've got something similiar to them round where i live. Except the poles are white with a black 'roof'. They are apperently to mark out a high pressure jet fuel pipeline which goes to a few RAF bases.

Ian

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29th May 09 at 11:52

I thought this was going to be a thread about people washing your windscreen

There are loads of these right down the 6.

Fuel traffic does sound feasible.

John

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29th May 09 at 11:53

If they were for anything to do with supplying fuel in the event of a war they wouldn't be marked with illuminous orange paint would they

Ludacris Turbo

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29th May 09 at 11:55

Heres a map showing where the pipes go and what PSI there under. http://www.linewatch.co.uk/map_gpss.htm

ScubaSteve

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29th May 09 at 12:13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pipelines_and_Storage_System

For anyone that's interested.

baza31

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29th May 09 at 12:33

so there is fuel under there? any one up for some syphonage tonight lol

ScubaSteve

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29th May 09 at 12:38

If you're going to hit that with a hammer, make sure there's no one around you for about 15 square miles.

Oh, and get a mate to film it

Bonney

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29th May 09 at 13:56

think these are for the gas pipes. Theres a few over the feild near my house, with one of the small concrete posts with the depth of the line on it etc.

CorsAsh

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29th May 09 at 14:38

quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
they indicate gas mains

sand-eel

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29th May 09 at 15:16

Defo not breathers

as the pipe are under pressure.
Maybe they are runway markers to land on motorways in the event of no runway available during war.

Doug

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29th May 09 at 18:32

I thought they were to gauge the road in times of heavy snow

Shows how much I know

Ste

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29th May 09 at 19:50

Well, I have done a bit of research with the new info from Ludacris Turbo and ScubeSteve. It does seem that there is a vast underground network of fuel pipes around the country. The markers are along the route showing where service areas are for the pipes. There are different colour tops and poles depending on who owns the pipe and what they do with it.

The MOD have a pipeline called the GPSS

quote:
MOD.uk
The DFG plays a significant role in national contingency planning and works with the Oil and Pipelines Agency (OPA), a non-departmental public body. The OPA is responsible for management of the Government Pipeline and Storage System (GPSS), a strategic defence asset, which is 2,500km of pipeline and 46 other facilities across the United Kingdom, providing aviation fuel to MOD sites.

The network is interconnected with several private networks and was built in 1942 to supply all the RAF and USAF bases in the country. The pipeline also supplies the UK's civil airports and has a contingency storage capacity as well. The MOD's fuels requirements are preplanned two years hence but the system has sufficient flexibility to allow for a surge in demand, such as an increase in the operational tempo

There is also a map of the whole network on the Linewatch website that Ludacris Turbo found

HERE

Also, you could never be sure what is flowing down the pipe at any one time

quote:
MOD.uk
To keep contamination to a minimum when one product follows another down a pipeline, products are sent in this sequence: naphtha (the lightest), petrol, kerosene, gas oil (the heaviest), kerosene, petrol, naphtha. Although generally there is no physical barrier between each product, an inflatable sphere is sometimes put in the pipe between consignments.

Mazin.

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by Ste W]

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micra_pete

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29th May 09 at 21:50

I didn't know this.
Very interesting post

sand-eel

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29th May 09 at 22:04

Interesting indeed, I take it the pipes are very deep underground as any country would easily know where they are during war and try to take them out.
Also why is the 2 up north not connected to any where else