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jake_rob

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Registered: 25th Feb 09
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27th Sep 09 at 21:21

out of interest, what sort of power have people seen from there 1.4 16v as mine has a mantzel style powerbox, decat, mongoose backbox, derestricted/drilled airbox, and it just seems like there isnt any power, at a guess i would of thought it should be around 100bhp, 11 up from the standard 89 at least

AndyCorsaSport

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27th Sep 09 at 21:56

Can get a fair bit, About 150-160 iirc??

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 21:58

what mods?

steel

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27th Sep 09 at 21:59

yer i would like to know of these mods too

*JonnyG*

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27th Sep 09 at 22:01

Cams? remap?

Minty_Fresh

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27th Sep 09 at 22:05

i had the same mods, but with a 4-2-1 manifold, and i had a print out of 115bhp..

you could do:

bodies
head work
cams
4-2-1 manifold
remapped

but imo go for a 1.6 if your really wanting to keep a small block..

[Edited on 27-09-2009 by mk4_boy]

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 22:19

ive been told the difference between the 1.6 and 1.4 isnt even noticeable. any links to throttle bodies? what sort of money would i need?

Mark B

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27th Sep 09 at 22:22

its noticeable the 1.6's are nippy

Minty_Fresh

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27th Sep 09 at 22:22

a fair amount of money..

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 22:29

whats best mods i could do for little money? obv 4 branch and centre section, remap, cams. anything else?

gez bay

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27th Sep 09 at 22:32

filter

Eck

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27th Sep 09 at 22:34

For you to make any sort of noticeable gains, it will cost you more money than it will to slap an XE in it.

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 22:43

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
For you to make any sort of noticeable gains, it will cost you more money than it will to slap an XE in it.

i know, but im tryin my hardest not to lol really wanna keep it legit... well ish lol.

Eck

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27th Sep 09 at 22:44

It can be legit with an XE?

And you've as much chance of being fucked over for the dirt big trumpets of tb's being under the bonnet on your "standard" engine if you have an accident fella!

Stoneyginger

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27th Sep 09 at 22:46

My old 1.4 16v was a proven 105bhp with a decat, back box and air filter

steel

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27th Sep 09 at 22:50

what are the most noticible effects of a decat?
are they worth the bother of having to refit for an MOT?

gez bay

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27th Sep 09 at 22:51

noise probably

*JonnyG*

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27th Sep 09 at 22:53

Raise limter? 1.4 with 14/50 bhp be mint tho.

harrisp

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27th Sep 09 at 22:56

quote:
Originally posted by gez bay
noise probably

Ive got a decat on a standard system and it isnt that loud to be fair, bit raspier but not much else.

Seems to pull a little bit better.

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 23:11

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
It can be legit with an XE? And you've as much chance of being fucked over for the dirt big trumpets of tb's being under the bonnet on your "standard" engine if you have an accident fella!

doubt ill afford throttle bodies any time soon tbh, and im never gonna get insured on an xe when im 17 and ive been driving about a month lol plus thats just the lazy way of getting the power

jake_rob

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27th Sep 09 at 23:12

quote:
Originally posted by Stoneyginger
My old 1.4 16v was a proven 105bhp with a decat, back box and air filter

strong engine !! what sort of mileage was it? mines bout 75k but doubt its even tht powerfull tbh

Stoneyginger

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27th Sep 09 at 23:14

think it was about 59k on it, i have the print out for power here. Someone off the board bought it and put a mantzel on it

Eck

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27th Sep 09 at 23:16

quote:
Originally posted by jake_rob

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
It can be legit with an XE? And you've as much chance of being fucked over for the dirt big trumpets of tb's being under the bonnet on your "standard" engine if you have an accident fella!

doubt ill afford throttle bodies any time soon tbh, and im never gonna get insured on an xe when im 17 and ive been driving about a month lol plus thats just the lazy way of getting the power

At 17 you should be happy with the power of a std 1.4 laddie! And it's not the lazy way... A 140bhp 1.4 (which will cost a FORTUNE) still won't be as quick as an XE as it'll have nowhere near as much torque

My 1.4 (with Mantzel, 4-2-1, and cat back system) is being binned shortly for an XE

alan-g-w

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27th Sep 09 at 23:34

quote:
Originally posted by steel
what are the most noticible effects of a decat?
are they worth the bother of having to refit for an MOT?

My MOT tester says that they don't make a difference to an N/A motor. I'm not sure but I've got a 159bhp RR printout for the XE and all that was done to it at the time was a cone filter and full system with a de-cat.

It's worth it purely for the smell of the fumes when you use V-Power in my mind though

Richardhhha

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27th Sep 09 at 23:39

de cat wil free up the exhaust a lot, as a cat is like putting a brease block in the exhaust system.

sport cat or de cat depending on wether you want to be fucked if they spot check your car one day

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