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Adge
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20th Nov 09 at 15:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

looking for a change of supplements i use to help me gain sum lean muscle

looking for

MORNING -

PRE-WORKOUT-

POST WORKOUT -

Meal replacement Bar/snack bar -

what do people think is a good supplements ot help me get sum gains

iam 6ft, 90kg and train 5 days a week if that matters
Adge
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20th Nov 09 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

this is my currrent shopping basket! any toughts before i spend the £100???

MORNING -
- Reflex Creapure Creatine
- Reflex Instant Whey

PRE-WORKOUT-
Ultralife Extreme NOX Pump (30 Sachets)
(Tropical)

POST WORKOUT -
- Reflex Creapure Creatine
- Reflex Instant Whey

Meal replacement Bar/snack bar -
CNP Pro-Flapjack Bar (Box 24)
(Chocolate Orange)
DizzyRebel
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20th Nov 09 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£100?

20ml of testosterone enanthate would go down a treat lol
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20th Nov 09 at 18:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bit over kill imo adge. All you need imo is a good protein shake prior to your workout, followed by a shake with carbs (maltodextrin/dextrose)

Is your current diet in check? what is your current diet?

After all these are supplements to a good diet.




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Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have 3 different kinds of shake at the moment, the NO Explode before the workout (changing this), a normal protein shake for mornings and after workout, and have just got a casein protein shake to have last thing at night. I have L-Glutimine with the 3 protein shakes (not in the NO Explode).

Obviously have multi-vitamins and the Omega-3 tablets too.
Jake
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20th Nov 09 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont bother with creatine. add a multivitamin to the list
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20th Nov 09 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

IMHO, get the Whey protein and just eat more.

I also can't see how a non-athlete/bodybuilder would need ever NO Explode-esque stuff either. Sounds like people can't be bothered and would rather pay to get the buzz that gives them the motivation to train...!
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20th Nov 09 at 19:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Laney
I also can't see how a non-athlete/bodybuilder would need ever NO Explode-esque stuff either. Sounds like people can't be bothered and would rather pay to get the buzz that gives them the motivation to train...!


What difference does it make, you could be the most motivated person in the world but if their is something that will push you that bit further so you can lift heavier or push that extra 2 reps, why wouldnt you have it?
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20th Nov 09 at 19:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anything that aids or spurs you on is welcomed IMO, if it's within your means in terms of ££££ then I'm all for it, try Mammoth 2500, it's ace.
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20th Nov 09 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jake
dont bother with creatine. add a multivitamin to the list


agreed. Not sure why you would have it post workout either? Then again I was years ago since I actually had an interest in creatine and read up about it, might have all changed now.
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20th Nov 09 at 19:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
What difference does it make, you could be the most motivated person in the world but if their is something that will push you that bit further so you can lift heavier or push that extra 2 reps, why wouldnt you have it?


Just my opinion and I personally don't see the point. I think a lot of people see it as a silver bullet, thats all.
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20th Nov 09 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It may be just a placebo, it may not be, a lot of people swear by the likes of NO Explode though for giving them that little extra, and after having used it for a month or so now I do agree.

If it helps me push that little more then Im all up for it, as it doesnt cost the world.
Jake
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20th Nov 09 at 21:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
it doesnt cost the world.


if it did you would be able to find that sort of money at the bottom of your laundry basket
Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

laundry? I only wear clothes once then throw them.
Jake
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20th Nov 09 at 21:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so that blue cardigan is now shredded up inside a punchbag? thank fuck for that
Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 21:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I bought 10 of them so dont worry!
Adge
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20th Nov 09 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dan
Bit over kill imo adge. All you need imo is a good protein shake prior to your workout, followed by a shake with carbs (maltodextrin/dextrose)

Is your current diet in check? what is your current diet?

After all these are supplements to a good diet.




CURRENT DIET

8am - cereal, fruit, yoghurt protein shake

10:30am- fruit yoghurt

12pm: 2 chicken beasts, with jackeet and sald

3pm: chicken breast wrap

4:30pm pre work out bar

5pm: Train

6:30pm- post wokeout shake

7pm- Tea chicken/mince/steak with rice/poatos veg etc

10pm- bed!


thats about it most days!


Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 22:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats a lot of carbs.
Jake
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20th Nov 09 at 22:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if he's bulking it wont matter. should be on if i remember correctly 2g carb per pound of bodyweight. going by his diet they're complex carbs anyway.

a piece of advice for the diet - the first half hour AFTER workout should be a window of opportunity to cram in as much fast digesting protein as poss along with dextrose to transport it to your muscles quicker. one workout shake isnt really enough. Whatever you do, dont go anywhere near fats at this time
Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 22:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wasnt necessarily saying it was a bad thing, just a lot of carbs in general.
Jake
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20th Nov 09 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know that trevor but he might take it out of context
Cosmo
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20th Nov 09 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whateva treva
Pop
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20th Nov 09 at 22:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Would a good post-workout shake include whey protein, l-glutamine and dextrose?
DizzyRebel
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21st Nov 09 at 00:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Peri workout nutrition is the most important part of training.

A basic peri workout protocol would look like this:

30min pre w/o: 25g casein, 25g waxy maize

15 min pre w/o 25g vitargo/malto, 25g whey

Throughout training sip 25g casein

immediately after training 25g whey, 25g vitargo/malto

45 mins post workout 25g whey, 25g vitargo/malto.

120 mins post workout have a big meal.


Peri-workout nutrition is the future of getting big quickly, have a protocol like that and you will have no choice but to put size on!
Craig W
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21st Nov 09 at 11:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Pop
Would a good post-workout shake include whey protein, l-glutamine and dextrose?


In a nutshell, yes, but i favour Vitargo over dextrose/maltodextrin.

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/carbohydrates/vitargo-pure/

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