Twitch
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Registered: 3rd Nov 09
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basicly i recon you can only become a good driver untill you've had a serious crash. ( basicly write of or big dmg not a dink in a car park or something )
I know alot of people who are really good at driving its been there passion and grown up with it and they all had a major crash
Then i know some people who just dont have a fucking clue about the limits or a car or handling and just assume if its newer its better.
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adiohead
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Registered: 28th Sep 01
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I understand what you're saying.
I really learnt about the balance of a car after crashing from changing gear mid-corner.
Although I do feel that if you've been taught properly then you don't need to crash to be a good driver.
If I'd done the rally course I did before my crash then I'd of learnt about balance before hand.
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alan-g-w
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Registered: 9th Nov 07
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Utter bullshit. I for one have had a serious crash where I wrote off a car doing about 60mph. I would say that I'm a better driver now, but only for the fact that I don't hoon around as much as I used to.
You don't learn anything about crashing when you do it other than it hurts. I would say that I'm a better driver now but it's not that crash that did it to me, just the fact that I'm a lot more mature than I was back then.
Just because you've crashed one car in one situation doesn't in any way, shape or form make you a better driver. It's just that, in my case anyway, it made me drive a bit slower. So it depends how you define a good driver.
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strick206
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Registered: 12th Apr 07
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Complete and utter shit
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x14xe sport
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Registered: 27th Apr 09
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when i 1st passed my test i had a few offs down the local lanes from daft things like going to fast into corners and not anticpating the road ahead, also saw the benefit of having decent tyres etc and after surviving my 1st few weeks of motoring with just a few spins into a hedge and ditch and halfway up a sign post i havent crashed since and a drive hard, everywhere
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Budgie
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Registered: 2nd Dec 09
Location: Basingstoke
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i learned that its good to have tyres with tread especially in the winter 
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Paul_J
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Registered: 6th Jun 02
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 such a load of crap...
It's what bad drivers say (who crash)...
Same as the bad drivers whom fail their tests a lot of times and claim 'it makes you a better driver to take the test multiple times'.
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Neo
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Registered: 20th Feb 07
Location: Essex
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
It's what bad drivers say (who crash)...
Bang on
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oceansoul
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Registered: 19th Jun 06
Location: Sunbury, Surrey
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I dont think there are that many "Good" drivers. Most people are average or above average, but only properly trained drivers, i.e. Police persuit drivers, or paramedics etc are actually good. TBH most people in this country are terrible drivers.
I was always told, that someone that thinks they are a Good driver, arnt.
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pow
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Registered: 11th Sep 06
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I agree to an extent, teaches you a lot about how a car can react when it all goes tits up but it's not the be all and end all!
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AlunJ
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Registered: 3rd Apr 07
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I wouldn't say I was a good driver, but I wouldn't say I was all that bad either, seeing what some idiots do does make you feel like a good one sometimes mind.
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ajscorsa
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Registered: 30th Apr 02
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i wouldnt say it makes you a better driver, just makes you think I dont wanna do that again so think about things more.
The only thing that makes you a better driver is experience. I crashed my car when I was 18 dont think it made me a better driver, just scared the shit out me, got me to sort ma self out and stop driving like a fanny.
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mwg
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Registered: 19th Feb 04
Location: South Lakes
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I'd like to think if someone had a crash it'd make them think about their driving a bit more and improve them. But the reality is I know lots of people that drive just as dangerously and carelessly as they did before.
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Andrew
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Registered: 5th May 04
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I've never had a crash so how does this make me a bad driver?
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16vKarlos
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Registered: 27th Oct 07
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dont agree at all really.
When i had just passed my test and all my other friends were passing their tests too.
i used to go out late at night and chuck my car around roundabouts when it was wet to see its limits. i wasn't scared about loosing control as that was what i was trying to do, so that i could regain control or learn how to correct the situation.
on a number of occasions i have seen a mate infront of me trying his hardest to correct a fishtale and completely failing by looking at me on the roundabout head on
Im not saying lets all go out and chuck our cars about, but that was my way of learning, partly because in the evening i was hanging out with people that were older than me and had faster cars, but i was good on corners and on several occasions i had comments as to how my car kept up through the twisties
My 2 pence 
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Shell
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Registered: 14th Oct 08
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I was in a bad accident before i learnt to drive and that's always made me a very cautious driver. However, it hasn't made me a better driver than everyone else. It makes you think more, it doesn't teach you how to be a rally driver in the twisties.
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Paul_J
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Registered: 6th Jun 02
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Title should be changed to:
'Does having a big crash stop you driving like a moron?'
... Yes.
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John
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Registered: 30th Jun 03
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I've been a better driver since crashing, not everybody learns though and that's not to say you can't be a good driver without having a crash.
Down to the individual.
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Colin
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Registered: 4th Apr 02
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My crash came 7yrs after passing my test & taught me to be more cautious........of other pricks on the road. 
Its other anuses on the road that make it a dangerous place, not me
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Ben G
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Registered: 12th Jan 07
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i had a big crash and i don't think it made me a better driver, just made me more aware of the dangers of wet roads.
it's more the experience of driving that makes you a better driver, and getting some professional tuition.
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Rammer
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I had a serious crash had a car drive into me doing 80mph while i was sat in my car stopped wondering where the fook she was going was in hospital a month and nearly died 2 times.
It made me more aware of other drivers, not only do you have to look where your going when your driving you have to be the eyes of other road users and look where their going aswell.
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Daimo B
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The question is how good a driver are you if you've crashed in the first place???? (if you haven't been rammed that is)....
10 years driving, always at a quicker pace than is supposed to (im not a silly driver, but when out the towns, i generally drive a lot quicker than most, purley because its more fun, and I can ), being pulled at WELL over a tonne, but i've only had 1 crash. 3 months into driving, too busy trying to pickup a dropped fag (country lane, hit the bank, when on its side).
Problem resolution? - Don't smoke fags in cars.
Never had another car accident since.
If you want to learn awareness, get a bike  (had to throw it in ).
In fact, the only thing thats improved my skill level, is track days, and experience. If you "get driving" you should be ok through life. If you "don't get it" then you will never be a good driver, as these people are too busy trimming beard hair and reading the paper instead of driving.
If they crashed, would it improve their skill level???
No.
So to answer your question. No, having a crash makes you no better a driver at all. If you want to be impoving your driving skills, go to an advanced driving course, a skid pan, and a track day, and go out on a bike (for the observational skills), and your driving will VASTLY improve.
But everyone is an excellent driver, they cna't be told. Even that chap with 1 finger up his nose, the other hand changing the paper to the next page, looking down at his phone, whilst on his bluetooth having a conversation.... He's in full control you know.....
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MJFF88
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Four years no claims, no points, no bumps. I must be one of the lucky few if your theory is correct.
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shaunmods
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I've not been in any massive crashes but I've been been arse ended 3 times in less than a year. They've seriously knocked me confidence and I'm now a very paranoid driver. Especially when stopping at junctions, traffic lights etc I always worry. So even though mine weren't mine fault I'd say they have made me worse.
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nathy_87
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Registered: 14th Aug 08
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Not really, I had a crash back in November 2007 managed to write tehcar off, and I still drive like a knob.
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