Nismo
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This was sent to me today by Lawrie Lewis (Superintendent
Avon and Somerset Constabulary) and he also registered and posted it in my forum
Just thought id let you South West lot know.
Avon & Somerset Constabulary statement regarding car enthusiasts activity in Weston-super-Mare and change in police tactics
In 2002 the Constabulary demonstrated its willingness to take robust action to counter the socially unacceptable behaviour of car enthusiasts. The action we took had a significant impact which was supported by the general public, the Crown Prosecution Service and finally the courts.
Over the winter months locals enthusiasts and others, visiting from further afield, have steadily increased in number and their collective behaviour has deteriorated to an extend where a public nuisance is being caused and public safety affected.
In response to our own and the public concerns we are now in the first stage of an operation whereby we will, if the assemblies and behaviour do not stop, repeat the robust enforcement operations of early 2002.
On Sunday 16th March 2003 extensive evidential digital photographs were taken of attendees. This may be repeated.
Witness statements will be taken from members of the public affected by the assemblies and behaviour. Police officers will also be submitting evidential statements.
The nuisance vehicle database initiated in 2001 and added to in 2002 will be brought back into operation and further expanded this year. You may receive notice that you are being added to that database.
We will, if appropriate, make arrests and seizure of property on as large or even larger scale than we did in 2002.
I remind you below of the advice we have consistently put out;
The situation in Avon and Somerset continues to be that we will not encourage, authorise or condone unauthorised cruises (or ‘boy racers’ and we will act in a positive and proactive fashion to prevent them. Action we have taken and will consider taking in the future include:
 Arresting those organising, encouraging others to, or actually taking part in ‘cruises' (or ‘boy racers’ for the offences of causing or conspiracy to cause a public nuisance. This is a serious offence that can bring with it a term of imprisonment.
 Seizing vehicles, mobile phones, computers used for posting messages and other evidence of involvement in such offences using powers such as those provided by the Police & Criminal Evidence Act.
 Upon conviction we may request the court exercise their power to make a forfeiture or destruction order in respect of any evidence we have seized and retained. That places vehicles and any other item we have seized and retained, at risk.
In addition we may make use of the new powers provided by the Police Reform Act (view at www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/20030--f.htm#59) where appropriate. Essentially the new powers have both extended the circumstances under which we can take legal action and the nature of that action.
To remind you of the events of the 31st March 2002 in Weston-super-Mare a total of 18 vehicles were seized and retained for up to a month as evidence pending the completion of our investigation. 24 people were arrested. At Magistrates Court fines of £350 were imposed. 14 elected trail at Crown Court and after several months on bail and employing barristers they were all bound over to keep the peace by the Court. (To correct mis-information generated by one magazine they did not ‘cut a deal’ they were offered that route to save a lengthy trial that may have resulted in far more extensive penalties being imposed). One person lost their job as a direct result of the investigation and another person was disciplined.
The nuisance vehicle database we commenced in 2001 now has some 700 vehicles listed and will be instrumental in demonstrating that the keeper of a vehicle has received a previous warning and could therefore be liable for arrest and / or seizure of their vehicle. In many circumstances you do not need to have been entered on the database before we are able to take legal action.
We have the plans in place but I sincerely hope we do not have to take similar action in 2003.
Lawrie Lewis
Superintendent
Avon and Somerset Constabulary
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Nath
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www.smcruisers.co.uk
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Trotty
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Just highlights what a bunch of wankers they are
Perhaps an alternative location for the next meet...
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Phil Hall
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At a cost of how much to the taxpayer ????
Go and catch some real criminals!!! Fcuking hate the police tarring everyone with the same brush.
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Dr Pepper
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Registered: 21st Sep 02
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That demonstrates how out of touch they are with the scene. However, they base there procedures on the idiot minority, not the inocent majority. The modified community as a whole needs to take action against the wankers who go to cruises to race or to behave like shits- I dont mind people racing on a quite stretch of road on the odd occasion- I just get pissed off with those dickheads who turn up to cruises and tarnish the reputation of everyone else who is there having a good crack.
The police obviously are not going t be putting up with any shit so people need to decide whether or not they want cruising to continue.
How the fukc can the police judge if you are attending a cruise or just driving down a public road? There proposals are seriosly flawed and unneccasary- They aint going to change them though
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jay@ffwd
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Registered: 14th Jan 03
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When you park up stick on show plates till you hit the road....
FIGHT THE POWER
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Meat-Pie-SRI
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if half of the people who attend cruises, meets etc weren't a bunch of irresponsible little gimps then we wouldn't have to propose things like this. it'd be far easier for the police to just let everyone get on with it but we can't because of these people so.............
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Joff
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I would advise everyone to continue to attend the cruises.
Hopefully then we'll get some fcuking terrible cars off the road - you hear me Ojc??
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Nismo
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Registered: 12th Sep 02
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yeah they aint never going to stop Weston on a sunday night - its a way of life for us southerners.
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Jason Iles
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quote: Originally posted by Nismo
yeah they aint never going to stop Weston on a sunday night - its a way of life for us southerners.
This is true, it is so big lately they can't control it so they may as well let us be. There is no trouble as far as i'm aware??
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someone
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did you reply?
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Nismo
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yeah you can see the post at http://smc.supporthell.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Chat;action=display;num=1047934300
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