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Gareth
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Registered: 2nd Mar 00
Location: Derby, Drives: EVO VIII MR & pug 308
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19th Nov 10 at 05:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As above really its an ideal elan 2. It wouldnt fire up but it was sparking so i took it to bits and lit it with a small piece of wood. It fired up, great i thought as it worked for a few hours but then it went out so repeated and the same happened again. Its an old boiler about 15 years i think and ive never had it serviced, should i just buy a new 1? any ideas about the fault? cheers.
harrisp
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Registered: 15th Dec 07
Location: Derbyshire
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19th Nov 10 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

15 years is a long time for a boiler to last. I know a man that fits boilers
CORSA NUT
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Location: Wirral
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19th Nov 10 at 15:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Our boiler is 25 years old

Oh and i hope your a gas fitter? Gassafe registered etc?
Ben G
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19th Nov 10 at 19:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

we have the same boiler and it's about 15 years old aswell. think it was put in when the house was built.

i'm getting a combi boiler and i suggest you do aswell.

15 years is a pretty good lifespan for the boiler.
popey
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Registered: 18th Nov 10
Location: liverpool
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19th Nov 10 at 19:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

buy a new one. you will save/notice the difference in your bills.

id do it asap aswell! coz im cold here with heatin on!
deanmcreynolds26
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Registered: 15th Sep 03
Location: E46 //M3
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19th Nov 10 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

could be something simple mate like the thermocouple or the boiler overheating causing it? any noises before its cutting out?

but to be honest the elan is pretty ancient so id prob change it
Rickavo
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Location: Manchester
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19th Nov 10 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Change it and if youve took it to bits without really knowing what you're doing, soon as tbh
Gareth
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Location: Derby, Drives: EVO VIII MR & pug 308
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20th Nov 10 at 06:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fault has been confirmed as a f**ked board, waiting on a price. I have decided if its less than 300 i will have it fixed if not can get a new baxi fitted for 1200. Ben G yeah my house is identical to yours, if i was going the combi route i would want to shift it from the kitchen to where the cyclinder is in that lift up panel in the bathroom so maybe 2.5k
Gareth
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20th Nov 10 at 06:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As for the bills im paying £14 a month for gas as its just been reviewed although its been up and down loads over the years, carnt really see a combi saving me much more?
deanmcreynolds26
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20th Nov 10 at 09:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Should pay about £110 for the board mate, plus whatever labour!

You sure it's the pcb? If it's cutting out and knocking the pilot off I'd say it wasn't that!
mattk
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Registered: 27th Feb 06
Location: St. Helens
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20th Nov 10 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ideals were shit when they were brand new

I replaced a few boards on Ideals, have a look on eBay and see if there are any reconditioned ones, I pay about £90 for them, I always give the customer the option of a brand new one or a recon one, all of them have opted for the recon, not had any problems with them yet

Just get a new boiler Imo, and depending what Baxi your after it will be cheaper to buy either the Potterton or Main model

they are the same boilers but with a different name on them
Rob_Quads
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22nd Nov 10 at 12:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by popey
buy a new one. you will save/notice the difference in your bills.



You will notice it with your bills but then you have just forked out a forture.

It all depends how long your going to be in the house. My boiler is far from great, probably 65/70% efficient BUT it was going to be a good 5+ years before i got anywhere near the break even point. If we look to move in the next few years it would be money lost.
Gareth
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Registered: 2nd Mar 00
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26th Nov 10 at 03:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Boiler now fixed turned out not to be the board but it needed a new injector and electrode cost £100 all in so well happy with that and just in time for the cold weather. Thanks for the input.
sand-eel
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Registered: 15th Mar 07
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7th Dec 10 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Pretty certain if you replace a boiler you now HAVE to put a grade A or B efficiency one in.
Rickavo
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8th Dec 10 at 00:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Majority if not all new combis are grade A anyway
John
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8th Dec 10 at 09:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
If we look to move in the next few years it would be money lost.


Unles the buyer was willing to pay an extra few k because it had a nice new boiler.
Rob_Quads
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8th Dec 10 at 11:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Maybe but out of all the people I know that have moved house in the last 5 years the state of the boiler has not decided if they move in (in fact virtually all have gone for houses with older boilers as they were nicer houses)
mattk
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9th Dec 10 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
Pretty certain if you replace a boiler you now HAVE to put a grade A or B efficiency one in.


Have to be A rated now, they are doing / done away with SEDBUK ratings too now

 
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