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Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 16:57

Anyone know much about them? 1.9s specifically. Also GTI6 and MI16 conversions.

205tom

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30th Nov 10 at 17:01

what do you want to know

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:09

Long time Tom, alright? I just want to know how they compare in comparison with more modern hot hatches and the Pros and cons of the bigger engines.

205tom

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30th Nov 10 at 17:13

not really delt with them for abit, id prolly get a 16v s1 over a 205 nowadays, bar a 205 rallye

DannyB

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30th Nov 10 at 17:16

One of the best hot hatches of all time, perfect track toy, If a decent turbo come up I'd replace the 106 with one in a heartbeat

my mates had a few, his current one is an 8v turbo running about 220bhp, with an LSD, full cage, totally stripped, totally trac prepd, very quick car. The GTI6 and MI16 conversioned ones are quick but a waste of time if you want a really quick hot hatch, up at KH a few months ago there was one of each on TB's and one on carbs and the turbo blew them all away. Bullet proof engines and relativly cheap to buy. This white one to buy was dirt cheap, he's spent a fair bit on it recently though.

[Edited on 30-11-2010 by DannyB]

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30th Nov 10 at 17:17

what do you want to use it for?

As a road car I think you'd feel its age.... lack of toys, comforts etc

As a cheap tracktoy they are hard to beat.

We had a near standard power 1989 1.9 GTi. It was great

OMP Cage, OMP bracing, Pug Sport GrpN exhaust, solid mounts, uprated rear beam, pads and discs etc... nothing too expensive.

Really Really regret selling it!

I'd have loved to pop an S16 engine (lighter than Mi16) in it

Jambo

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30th Nov 10 at 17:18

220bhp

Bet that shifts

DannyB

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30th Nov 10 at 17:20

It's quick, 220bhp may seem a lot but in the world of 16v turbo 205's it's not, there are so many turbo 205's up here it's unreal, you regulally see 4 or 5 at KH at the same time, some of the bigger spec 16v turbos are running 350+ without issues.

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:22

quote:
Originally posted by AK
what do you want to use it for?

As a road car I think you'd feel its age.... lack of toys, comforts etc

As a cheap tracktoy they are hard to beat.

We had a near standard power 1989 1.9 GTi. It was great

OMP Cage, OMP bracing, Pug Sport GrpN exhaust, solid mounts, uprated rear beam, pads and discs etc... nothing too expensive.

Really Really regret selling it!

I'd have loved to pop an S16 engine (lighter than Mi16) in it

Whats the S16 engine from? It would be a road and potentially track car now and then, magazine want me to have something relatively old so it can be featured now and then.

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30th Nov 10 at 17:25

from a 306 S16

may not be the 'best' option, but its what I was wanting to put into it. Baffled sump etc etc

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:25

Is that different from the GTI6 engine?

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:26

That looks awesome Danny!

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30th Nov 10 at 17:27

prob just the same engine as the GTi-6 actually

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30th Nov 10 at 17:28

quote:
Originally posted by Butler
Is that different from the GTI6 engine?

aye, think it could be... S16 just a different lighter trim level I think

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:29

Oh right, yeah I thought the earlier alloy MI16 was lighter than the GTI6 lump

gazza808

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30th Nov 10 at 17:29

I'd go for mi16 engine lighter, with 1.6gti gearbox,

Mate had 170bhp 1.9 8v, then a 210bhp mi16

Shifted with both,
I'd love one.

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30th Nov 10 at 17:31

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The GTi model was powered by a 2.0 litre 16 valve Peugeot XU10J4RS petrol engine capable of 167bhp power and 145lb.ft of torque

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The s16 model was powered by the Peugeot XU10J4 engine, a 2.0 litre 16 valve petrol unit producing either 150bhp or 155bhp as standard. Unlike it's 6-speed replacement the306 GTi6, the Peugeot 306 s16 is fitted with a BE-3/5 5 speed gearbox that will propel this 90's hot hatch to an eventual 130mph+

so... GTi-6 would prob be better

Butler

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30th Nov 10 at 17:37

That or a Citroen XM/Pug 605 2.0 8v turbo

dava.

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30th Nov 10 at 18:28

quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
It's quick, 220bhp may seem a lot but in the world of 16v turbo 205's it's not, there are so many turbo 205's up here it's unreal, you regulally see 4 or 5 at KH at the same time, some of the bigger spec 16v turbos are running 350+ without issues.

that will mostly be us lot

as danny said though cant beat a wee 8v turbo for some cheap track fun!
that one his mate has now is a cracker one of the quicker ones iv seen even with out the add ons hes put onit

DannyB

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30th Nov 10 at 19:22

More or less Dave yeah

wasnt the white one that Gez bought your mates?

dava.

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30th Nov 10 at 19:37

yeah that was daves at SOS Motorsport at one point, he had that many kicking about that he had to get rid of some haha

DannyB

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30th Nov 10 at 19:38

I need one

let me know if any come up that cheap again

connollygt30

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30th Nov 10 at 19:38

What was the guys name who owns the one i was in danny?

DannyB

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30th Nov 10 at 19:40

Cant think mate, the white one running close to 400 on Comps wasnt it? isnt he from Grangemouth or there abouts?

Dave will know, it's one of Duffs mates, works for same compnay if you know who I'm talking about

[Edited on 30-11-2010 by DannyB]

dava.

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30th Nov 10 at 19:44

ahh thats was guys or wangers depending on who you speak to,
dunno if its close to 400 bhp though, certainly in comparison with daves black one dave had a good edge on it when going toe to toe

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