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Mug shot
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30th Mar 03 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats hot and whats not??

have 200 note for a set of discs and pads

any info would be great cheers
Gary GSi
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30th Mar 03 at 17:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get yourself some Tar.ox sport japan discs about 150 notes. They are well made,can take a hammering and look shit hot.For pads,i use Red.dot fast road,EBC greenstuff are ok aswell.
Mug shot
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30th Mar 03 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers pal
and-m
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30th Mar 03 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bin the standard GSi calipers and get some Astra 16v ones. A lot more power, £150 new for calipers/disks/pads
paulr202000
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30th Mar 03 at 19:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive got red dot 20 groove discs and red dot fast road pads on 1.6 sport only cost me £130 from www.hyperformancedirect.co.uk and can highly recomened them.
miles
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30th Mar 03 at 19:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dont bother will so called performance disks, get either standard vauxhall stuff and save the money or spend the money or some astra gte 16v ate style calipers and disks.
paulr202000
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30th Mar 03 at 19:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

16valve astra brakes are the same size as 1.6 corsa discs and calipers!!


and groved or drilled disks look much better behind your alloys

[Edited on 30-03-2003 by paulr202000]
miles
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no they are not! The astra ones are wider!
Bennn
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yup they are different -the Astra Ate callipers are much better.
I got 256mm Willwood discs AND Maxtorq Kevlar pads for around £60. Some rip off "performance" discs are that each
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30th Mar 03 at 20:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so how do wider discs make u stop better then answer they dont!
to improve stoping power you have to increase the leverage against the wheel this is done my moving the caliper thought out eg bigger disks just like fitting v6 brakes. fitting wider discs will only help cooling . but if you fit high performance discs heat dosent matter!
Bennn
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they are different callipers too are they not?
and-m
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Yes the calipers have a bigger piston so will give better stopping power. Paulr202000 - seems like you know bugger all really.

A chap who has a Corsa GSi said braking was much improved after fitting the Astra setup so

[Edited on 30-03-2003 by and-m]
paulr202000
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if they are off a astra GTE they will be the same design as what i had on my nova which in the 2 years i had them on my car they seized on four times causenig me to go through three sets of disks and four sets of pad. due to the sealed design of the sliders causing moisture to stop in side them and rust making them stick. making them unreliable and the reason vauxhall changed there design to the new style at about k reg that are lighter so reducing the unsprung weight and improving handaling which in my (and vauxhalls) opinion are much better. If you want good brakes git Vectra V6 brakes but you wont get them for £150
and-m
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30th Mar 03 at 20:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

V6 setup is £200 but due to the master cylinder size of the Corsa you wont get very good pedal feel.

Here are the Astra 16v calipers...

Piccie here


[Edited on 30-03-2003 by and-m]
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where can i buy them from and m ??

cheers pal
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they must be off a GSI or sport so they are the new design and if they have a bigger piston they will be better but check the clearance on your wheels as mine were very close when new
and-m
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They are off a 16v GTE m8...the older style calipers use springs which are poop.

Have a look at http://www.v-tuning.com/

Theres a web link there.
Cybermonkey
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Paul you know fuck all mate. Brakes work by friction from the pads and discs being forced together by hydraulics. This in turn creates HEAT which helps transform the physical movement energy into heat energy. the heat is also a bad thing as it reduces the stopping power of the discs as they get too hot and glaze over from excess gases. The wider discs help dissipate the excess heat and gases as they are ventilated and help gases to pass away. Thats why Astra GTE brakes are better than Corsa GSi brakes under heavy stress. Also the fact that they are more likened to the Corsa master cylinder. The v6 setup is too large for the cylinder to operate properly and will result in a shitty pedal feel.

Dave

 
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