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Anyone considered one?

What does CS know about them, i know feck all really.

What choices are there? are they all really slow?
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you want a G-wiz, would suit you nicely.
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Battery powered cars are already obsolete and there are hardly any of them on the market right now.
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Electric cars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_vehicle

Future.
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so if i bought an old electric forklift truck and a metro, do you reckon i could make my own?

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Originally posted by fro-dizzle
you want a G-wiz, would suit you nicely.


if they are cheap to run etc i could live with one

especially for the times i just drive around with a mate talking about xbox and smoking weed
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can keep it until your wedding day

Making your own would be ace, scrapheap challenge
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I had a little look on the net about the new Nissan Leaf after I saw the advert. From what I found its ~£23K to buy and you should see savings on average of £500 a year. I was expecting much bigger savings, also the advert says the car was awarded 'Car of the year 2011' how that can happen in January who knows
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Electric cars will never take off, takes too long to charge and don't have enough range. Not to mention if it runs out of charge away from home you can't just top it up to get home. Hydrogen powered cars will be the future
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Actually I don't see why so much effort goes into new energy sources to run vehicles when diesels run on cooking oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow surely we could just use all the existing diesel cars with cooking oil/biodisel
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The only way electric cars would work is if the instant charging technology was developed further, so a full charge can be done in a few mins. Then for the batts to last longer too. Even 200 miles would be ok, but 60-80 is just crap.
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I've seen some suggestions of technology where there are induction loops embedded in the roads and cars have pickups in the floor pan, so the car is charged as it drives along.

Not completely related but energy generation from roads
http://www.greenprophet.com/2010/09/piezoelectric-generators-electric-cars/
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so there may be cheap electric battery cars around?

what others are there apart from G-wiz? have seen them from £3k-£5k, seems as if the battery needs replacing every few years though.

if i only went 20-30miles, which most of my trips always are then the range doesn't matter.
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can you not strip them out and modify them in any way to go faster or further?
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Stick some Duracells in.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Battery powered cars are already obsolete and there are hardly any of them on the market right now.


Sure i saw a nissan/toyota whatever one advertised on TV other day.
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The technology is there for alternatives to fossil fuel, but due to the fact that the oil companies run the world they won't allow it to happen.

A way to harness perpetual motion was basically discovered in the 50's and was quickly hushed up and swept under the carpets.
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They're only doing it to say they can produce an electric car. What do you do with all the batteries in 5 years when they're dead? What about all the chemicals that go into making the batteries? What about all the extra weight you have to carry around because of them? Nightmare.
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how do all the brakes and in car heating etc work with an electric car?

is everything electric
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I heard the other day (don't know how true it is) that the oil companies have been buying up any alternative technologies for years (like since the 60's), anything that could even have the slightest chance of replacing internal combustion engine gets bought up.
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Brakes would be hydraulic, some have regenerative braking. All other systems will have to be electric.
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Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? We do, we do.
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee
I heard the other day (don't know how true it is) that the oil companies have been buying up any alternative technologies for years (like since the 60's), anything that could even have the slightest chance of replacing internal combustion engine gets bought up.


Hunt for Zero Point - Nick Cook

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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
Electric cars will never take off, takes too long to charge and don't have enough range. Not to mention if it runs out of charge away from home you can't just top it up to get home. Hydrogen powered cars will be the future


i've got agree with you there, James May did a piece for TG ages ago now where he was in a Honda Clarity and he went through the arguments for different "alternative" fuels and made a good point that unless/until alternative fuels give us (the motorist) the same convenience as we currently have, they will always be 2 steps behind petrol/diesel cars
they need to take moments to fill up
they need comparable performance, both in terms of MPG and in speed/power
they need to comparable in price
they need to offer the same convenience

many of the current "green" cars are not this, the Prius for example is expensive for a what it is, a family saloon, and although is not considered slow, its MPG is beaten by a good diesel

The G-wiz ticks none of these boxes.
takes all night to charge up
is desperately slow and has a very small range
due to the performance figures and its size is simply not convenient for the average motorist.




quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
Actually I don't see why so much effort goes into new energy sources to run vehicles when diesels run on cooking oil. If we ran out of oil tomorrow surely we could just use all the existing diesel cars with cooking oil/biodisel


i haven't heard any thoughts that new energy scources are being considered to replace oil when supplies run dry instead for the "green" environmental reasons which low(er) emmissions
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People would want electric cars to save the world as well. Most of they do more harm to the enviroment in the manufacturing process than normal cars. My mates mum is a proper eco nut and she runs a little diesel vw blue motion thing.

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