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AuroraSport

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Registered: 5th Mar 05
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2nd Feb 11 at 17:24

Bit of a holiday nightmare,

Workmate of mine recently went on a family holiday, skiing in italy. 5 days in, he was involved in an incident whereby a german tourist knocked his relative off a ski lift causing injury to her face. I dont know the full extent of what happened, certainly words were exchanged in an argument. My friend and one of his family (brother i think) were then arrested and put in the local jail. The police certainly sided with the german man.

He was in jail for 6 days, then released. The lawyer assigned advised them that they had (as british drunken hooligans) beat this man up and put him in hospital. The allegations were completely false and they weren't told what was happening, food was bread only (unless they paid for anything else) and while in jail he had his trainers robbed by another inmate

Point is, anyone else had any sort of experience like this? I find this really hard to understand. Poor lad wants to put it all behind him but surely something can be reported to foreign office/embassy? Any thoughts? I thought shit like this doesn't happen.

K2 GTi

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2nd Feb 11 at 17:30

You're not getting the full story. He aint going to get put in prison for mouthing off, he must of assulted.

AuroraSport

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2nd Feb 11 at 17:33

Trust me if you met this guy would laugh at the thought of being assaulted by him.

Anyway, hypothetically even if he did the crime, is he not entitled to basic prisoner rights? Or is this country just criminally lenient?

SXi_Tim

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2nd Feb 11 at 17:40

I'd have left the scene before the police got there on a ski slope tbh

ryzer

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2nd Feb 11 at 17:52

did your workmate try to explain the situation like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY

[Edited on 02-02-2011 by ryzer]

Ian

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2nd Feb 11 at 17:55

So your friend and his brother started a fight with the German guy and got arrested?

Sounds fairly routine.

I think you're probably used to the UK being a soft touch.

AuroraSport

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2nd Feb 11 at 18:11

Ive just spoken to the guy in the mess, so ive gathered a bit more information.

Little sister/relative knocked down by german guy at gondola. German guy gets earful off family/friends/locals etc. Apparently there was a physical confrontation i.e. pushing by his friends but not him. Some people detained by ski security people/local police. Friend asks 'where are you taking him?'. At which point feet swept from underneath him, face in snow, arm behind back and cuffed.

Now i found this really crazy, i thought it was the local police cell. Taken to 'nearest' jail 80km away, strip searched, hosed and de-loused

put in with short term criminals i.e 5 years serving and less. Where my friend is threatened and has his lacoste trainers taken. 6 days without knowing what is happening, very scant information by assigned legal rep. Put it this way - no outside contact, my friend admitted he thought he would be there for weeks. They had nothing to wash with or a toothbrush for 6 days. All for a fat german guy knocking his relative over at the gondola.

And family guy

was the first thing i thought when he first told me.

[Edited on 02-02-2011 by AuroraSport]

Tom G

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:02

Yeh mate was arrested in Ibiza and fined 800E. Just best of paying it and fucking off. They are bias and you're. Fighting a losing battle.

Ellis

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:06

Shitty situation really, cops word will always rule. Those lazy, slimey Italian bawbags

AuroraSport

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:23

Just seems extreme to me, we're talking about a country in the EU.

Thats the thing, no charges or fines. Just detained for 6 days.

stubs

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:28

quote:
Originally posted by AuroraSport
Just seems extreme to me, we're talking about a country in the EU.

Thats the thing, no charges or fines. Just detained for 6 days.

In a sense, detained for 6 days is equivalent to a fine... take it on the chin, learn from it, think himself lucky it wasn't worse and move on - harsh but that's life at times.

AuroraSport

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:33

I agree with what's being said, i think im just shocked by how he was treated.

Twiggy

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2nd Feb 11 at 19:38

Wish our rozzers/prisons were this tough!

stubs

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3rd Feb 11 at 00:13

quote:
Originally posted by Twiggy
Wish our rozzers/prisons were this tough!

Well said! Maybe wrong that the police didn't slam the Germans in alongside the guy, but atleast they're not complete push overs like out police and justice system.

Lawrah

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3rd Feb 11 at 00:35

Can you not go to some sort of British Embassy or something?

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/when-things-go-wrong/arrest

[Edited on 03-02-2011 by Lawrah]

Ojc

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3rd Feb 11 at 07:27

Only way italians can feel powerful, disgraceful nation

Ben J

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3rd Feb 11 at 07:34

Probs worth talking to someone about it. Does sound dodgy as fuck. But anyone who's been to Italy will know, the police there are not to be messed with. Lol

JaffaTB

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3rd Feb 11 at 07:46

quote:
Originally posted by Twiggy
Wish our rozzers/prisons were this tough!

adiohead

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3rd Feb 11 at 09:01

quote:
Originally posted by AuroraSport
The police certainly sided with the german man.

History repeats:

[Edited on 03-02-2011 by adiohead]

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3rd Feb 11 at 09:43

This is why people with accents shouldn't do ski trips.

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