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davidm

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Registered: 21st Mar 11
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21st Mar 11 at 23:03

hi recently i swaped my old engine for another x10xe and tryed to start it and it wont start, so whats happing is when you crank it sometimes it just keeps cranking and doesnt fire but sometimes it will and when it fires you have to rev it when you start it but if you try to rev it again it just dies? to keep it running you have to turn the igniton off rev it then turn it back on if that makes sence? i have replaced the crankshaft sensor from old engine to new one and still no better, just now im using the ecu off the new engine i tryed the one off the old engine and it made no differnce, ive been told it could be the ignition switch would that cause it to do this? any help would be great as i need the car running asap! cheers

davidm

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22nd Mar 11 at 17:43

noone able to help?

B3KAN

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25th Mar 11 at 11:28

Is there plenty fuel getting to the engine?

pow

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25th Mar 11 at 11:58

Flashing EML?

Phillips_91

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25th Mar 11 at 12:49

sounds like its not getting enough fuel

Jed D

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25th Mar 11 at 16:22

had a similar problem on a old car years ago, once you stopped revving it'd just drop down and kut out, yeah?

check there's fuel getting to it as above states or try changing the sensors (air flow maybe?)

Jed D

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25th Mar 11 at 16:25

or just pull the throttle cable through so the revs done drop, like i did lol

johnhara1

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25th Mar 11 at 16:41

You using the original ecu, transponder and key (chip)?

Is the EML flashing? Sounds like immobiliser to me.

corsatdi

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25th Mar 11 at 16:46

As above immobiliser killing the engine

B3KAN

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25th Mar 11 at 17:13

quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
You using the original ecu, transponder and key (chip)?

Is the EML flashing? Sounds like immobiliser to me.

Read his post hes tryed them both and theres no difference, if it was the imobiliser it shouldt start at all

hes saying it does start but cuts out

johnhara1

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25th Mar 11 at 17:28

He say's he's used both ECU. It doesn't say he has used or knows to use both matching transponders and key chips.

Also, it will sometimes start with immobiliser and then cut out. I've seen this happen before.

B3KAN

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25th Mar 11 at 17:38

quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
He say's he's used both ECU. It doesn't say he has used or knows to use both matching transponders and key chips.

Also, it will sometimes start with immobiliser and then cut out. I've seen this happen before.

But if he used his origional ecu and chip as hes said he has it should start

johnhara1

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25th Mar 11 at 17:42

Unless the original ecu, transponder or chip is duff and the IMMOBILISER is stopping it from starting.

What is your beef?

johnhara1

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25th Mar 11 at 17:43

Have you tried bump starting it?

B3KAN

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25th Mar 11 at 17:48

quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
Unless the original ecu, transponder or chip is duff and the IMMOBILISER is stopping it from starting.

What is your beef?

If that was the case im sure he would have said its got the same problem as it did before he fitted the new engine

but from what i make out its only doing this since he has fitted the new engine so how can the chip and ecu be fucked?

johnhara1

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25th Mar 11 at 17:56

But he hasn't said much at all. That's why i've asked if the EML is flashing.

He hasn't said why he replaced the original engine, it may have been because of this.

B3KAN

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25th Mar 11 at 18:01

quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
But he hasn't said much at all. That's why i've asked if the EML is flashing.

He hasn't said why he replaced the original engine, it may have been because of this.

If it is then hes chaged the engine for nothing then

davidm

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26th Mar 11 at 20:15

yes ive tried bump starting it just dosnt want to go, about the eml light there was no bulb in it reason i changed the engine is cause pistonring was nackerd so it was the cheapest option, if it was the immobilser stopping the engine how would i get check it and get it sorted? oh and its an s reg 1.0 12v

[Edited on 26-03-2011 by davidm]

davidm

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26th Mar 11 at 20:15

oh and its getting enough fuel.

davidm

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26th Mar 11 at 20:17

quote:
Originally posted by JedDy
or just pull the throttle cable through so the revs done drop, like i did lol

haha that wouldnt work because when you give it more revs it just dies

B3KAN

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27th Mar 11 at 19:28

quote:
Originally posted by davidm
yes ive tried bump starting it just dosnt want to go, about the eml light there was no bulb in it reason i changed the engine is cause pistonring was nackerd so it was the cheapest option, if it was the immobilser stopping the engine how would i get check it and get it sorted? oh and its an s reg 1.0 12v

[Edited on 26-03-2011 by davidm]

Get it put on a diagnostic machine

Generation

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27th Mar 11 at 21:51

Car will start if its immobilser issue, will die after a split second

johnhara1

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27th Mar 11 at 22:01

did you see the new engine running?

davidm

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28th Mar 11 at 19:43