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daymoon

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:32

Pro's and Con's of bio-diesel?

Any one you use it or know of anyone who uses it?
Current price?

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:36

Smokey on cold start. Can freeze in your tank and fuel lines. Isn't friendly to new diesel fuel systems with piezo injectors and electric fuel pumps.

Works fine in old cars and in the summer though. Can't remember the price though.

scottyp1989

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:39

i use it in my bora, have no problems what so ever, no more smokey on cold starts and will not freeze if its proper bio due to what its mixed with, only thing i have to do is change the filter every 6 or so months but they are only cheap anyway and dont take long.

daymoon

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:41

I have Bora aswell... ^^^

What is price of it and what MPG do you get?
Also what engine is in yours?

pow

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:43

I thought the PD engines didn't take too kindly to the stuff?

scottyp1989

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:44

im paying 110 for it at the min, have been looking at making it myself tho, TBH im getting better MPG on bio than normal diesel, got 200 miles to £20. i have the PD100 engine in mine.

Chris x

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:45

How much is it per litre? Keep thinking about putting it in my Series 3/Defender 200TDI.

AshWatson

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23rd Mar 11 at 20:52

My friend uses bio diesel in his 1.3 cdti corsa c, no more smokey or less powerfull, better mpg on bio than normal, only thing he noticed was that if he filled tank from empty to full with it when we had the really cold wheather it took around 5 seconds more cranking to start than normal, so now he leaves around a fiver normal then fills up bio and its fine, pays around 1 pound 1 pence a litre lol

[Edited on 23-03-2011 by AshWatson]

corsatdi

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:00

Where can you get the friggin stuff! Will it run in the 1.7 isuzu?

daymoon

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:06

Mine is non PD engine, so should be fine?
Might give it a go...

DERV-POWER

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:08

quote:
Originally posted by corsatdi
Where can you get the friggin stuff! Will it run in the 1.7 isuzu?

what year is it

richc

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:11

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
im paying 110 for it at the min, have been looking at making it myself tho, TBH im getting better MPG on bio than normal diesel, got 200 miles to £20. i have the PD100 engine in mine.

Well that doesnt make sense. Are you sure you not getting more 'mpg' because you are getting more fuel for your money?

scottyp1989

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:14

quote:
Originally posted by richc

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
im paying 110 for it at the min, have been looking at making it myself tho, TBH im getting better MPG on bio than normal diesel, got 200 miles to £20. i have the PD100 engine in mine.

Well that doesnt make sense. Are you sure you not getting more 'mpg' because you are getting more fuel for your money?

nope, was lucky to get that to £30 on normal diesel.

John

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:15

200 miles to 20 quid isn't amazing in a non pd 1.9tdi.

As rich said, you're getting more fuel with bio-diesel for 20 quid than you are for 20 quid of normal diesel, that doesn't = better mpg.

[Edited on 23-03-2011 by John]

daymoon

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:21

I have the 90PS engine and last time i filled up i got 43-44 MPG... over 120 miles. 60 of those where trips to work. 7.5 miles one way. other 60 where a trip to uni, B roads, Dual carriageways.

Personally I think that isnt brilliant, But i have cnahged oil, filter, Air filter and diesel filter since.

corsatdi

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:23

quote:
Originally posted by DERV-POWER

quote:
Originally posted by corsatdi
Where can you get the friggin stuff! Will it run in the 1.7 isuzu?
what year is it

1999

DERV-POWER

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:25

yeah can run on bio all day long

scottyp1989

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:34

quote:
Originally posted by John
200 miles to 20 quid isn't amazing in a non pd 1.9tdi.

As rich said, you're getting more fuel with bio-diesel for 20 quid than you are for 20 quid of normal diesel, that doesn't = better mpg.

[Edited on 23-03-2011 by John]

mine is a PD tdi, and as i said above i was lucky to get that to £30 of diesel

corsatdi

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23rd Mar 11 at 21:48

Can you get this stuff at normal garages?

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:00

Some garages sell bio, Morrisons in Small Heath sells it from an orange pump.

John

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:03

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989

quote:
Originally posted by John
200 miles to 20 quid isn't amazing in a non pd 1.9tdi.

As rich said, you're getting more fuel with bio-diesel for 20 quid than you are for 20 quid of normal diesel, that doesn't = better mpg.

[Edited on 23-03-2011 by John]

mine is a PD tdi, and as i said above i was lucky to get that to £30 of diesel

Ahh, PD's aren't quite as good, I thought the PD's didn't like it.

pow

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:03

If it was sold round here I'd chop the MiTo in for something that used it

I had a letter from SEAT telling me my 130PD was good to use biodiesel as long as it reached some DIN standard...

[Edited on 23-03-2011 by pow]

John

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:05

Might give it a go if I can ever be annoyed going to the bio-diesel place, can only see one in Glasgow and it's nowhere near me.

pow

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:07

How do you find your local one? I don't know of anywhere that sells it apart from a place in north london

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23rd Mar 11 at 22:09

This is the site I used when I gave it a go:

http://www.biodieselfillingstations.co.uk/

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