Hammer
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12996888.stm
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Ben D
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You can't stop yobs from being yobs, aslong as Rangers don't encourage it then it is not their fault & shouldn't be fined, Just like Liverpool can't stop their fans killing people, what are they meant to do?
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Hammer
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I see you're not very clued up on the history mate.
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Ben D
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Not really
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JonnyJ
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Everyone should just support Cowdenbeath tbh.
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Ojc
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Northern Ireland, Potatos, Celtic, Rangers, British, 2 Para, yawn yawn yawn.
What has this religious/political battle got to do with football honestly? Isn't it about time you all just got a grip of yourselves.
You lot up there remind me of people in Newbury, for some unknown reason nobody in Newbury likes people from Reading, but nobody in Reading either cares or knows about it but they still carry on whining about being a jealous little town (country) next to it's big brother.
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Steve
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scottish people in general just seem to be angry and lacking intelligence
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Hammer
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quote: Originally posted by Ben D
Not really
Policy of not employing CatholicsBetween World War I and the 1980s, Rangers did not knowingly sign any Catholic players.[81] Many have written about the club's refusal to sign Catholic players, or employ Catholics in other roles, and the discrimination against employees who married Catholics.[82][83][84][85][86][87] Particularly from the 1970s, Rangers came under increasing media pressure over their policy,[88] but several of the club's directors publicly defended its position.[89]
In 1989, when Rangers signed Maurice "Mo" Johnston, "their first major Roman Catholic signing",[90] David Miller, the general secretary of the Rangers' Supporters' Association condemned the signing, saying "It is a sad day for Rangers... I don't want to see a Roman Catholic at Ibrox."[90] Johnston was the highest-profile Catholic to sign for the club since the World War I era; however, other Catholics signed prior to Johnston but since the end of World War I include Laurie Blyth (1951–1952), Don Kitchenbrand (1955–1956), Hugh O'Neill (1976) and John Spencer (1985–1992), among others.[91][92]
More recent examples of sectarianismIn 1999, Rangers' vice-chairman Donald Findlay was forced to resign after he was filmed singing sectarian songs[93] (The Billy Boys and The Sash) at an event organised by a Rangers Supporters Club. In his resignation letter, Findlay described the incident as "a serious misjudgment". He said his conduct "was not acceptable" and he regretted any harm done to the club's reputation.[93]
In 2002 the club dropped their controversial orange away strip after a "furious debate over whether Rangers were profiting from their sectarian overtones," though the club said their decision was "a commercial decision, not based on politics. We change the shirt every season with new designs to try to make it new and fresh."[94] Anti-sectarianism campaigners and politicians had criticised the club's decision to market an orange shirt, as the colour is associated with the Orange Institution.[94][95][96][97]
In 2006 UEFA declared the Rangers fans not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants after a UEFA Champions League tie against Villareal.[98] Celtic challenged the ruling, and the Appeals Body partially upheld the appeal, fining Rangers F.C. £13,500 and issued a warning to the club regarding any future misconduct.[99]
Rangers were fined again (12,000 euros) in 2007 after some Rangers fans were filmed making sectarian chants at a UEFA Cup match against Osasuna.[100][101]
In 2008, Rangers fans' singing of the Famine song, containing the lyrics "The famine's over now / Why don't you go home", caused controversy. The football club urged fans to stop singing the song, and warned they could be arrested for it.[102] Rangers' chief executive Martin Bain also warned fans they could be arrested for singing the song, but would not condemn the chanting.[103][104][105] He also said "Clearly some supporters feel aggrieved that a song they believe to be no more than a tit-for-tat 'wind up' of Celtic supporters should be singled out in this way and merit the attention of police, governments and anti-racist organisations".[106]
The song was condemned as racist by anti-racism group Show Racism the Red Card[107] and described as "vile, vicious and racist" by Celtic chairman John Reid[108] and complaints prompted Irish diplomats to contact the Scottish government.[109] The Rangers Supporters Trust (RST), however rejected claims that the song was racist, saying : "Racism is not a wind-up, however distasteful, aimed at Scottish Celtic fans".[110]
In November 2008, a Rangers fan was found guilty of a breach of the peace (aggravated by religious and racial prejudice) by singing the Famine Song during a game against Kilmarnock.[111] In February 2009, sectarian chanting by some Rangers fans during an Old Firm match at Celtic Park was reported to the SPL by the match delegate, again relating to the chanting of the Famine Song.[112][113]
Both the club and its fans are disparagingly nicknamed Huns by some fans of Celtic.[114][115][116][117][118][119][120] The Rangers Supporters Trust, in their statement defending singing of the Famine Song, described the nickname as "sectarian abuse".[110] The anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth also considers "Huns" to be a sectarian insult.[121] In 2008, a Celtic fan was convicted of a religiously aggravated breach of the peace for wearing a t-shirt with the slogan "dirty horrible huns".[122]
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Hammer
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
scottish people in general just seem to be angry and lacking intelligence
Indeed.
That's why you're shagging a 12 year old when really you're in love with Lawrah. An angry Scot lacking intelligence. FAIL.
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Steve
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thats also true
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Ojc
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Fuck sake you Scottish are mentally retarded, well at least the football supporting side of Scotland.
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Eck
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Paul, why do you even post these threads? They get the same comments every time None of which are remotely intelligent.
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Steve
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can someone sing me a sectarian song please
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Eck
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Hello, hello, we are the billy boys. Hello, Hello, you can hear us by our noise. We're upto our knee's in fenian blood, surrender or you'll die!
Happy? I know a lot of people who sing these songs, but it's for man points. Maybe one or two know what they are actually singing about!
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IvIarkgraham
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gazza gazza give us the sash
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