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Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Had a blow out yesterday and what the pissed offness with it all and due to the fact I was in a rush I left the locking nut ket at side of the road. Only came to light when I went to get new tyre fitted just now.

Its a Vauxhall set as it came with the car when I bought it. If I go down a dealer will they be able to sort me a replacement? If so, how much at?
Brett
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14th Jul 11 at 14:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Probs work out cheaper and easier to just smack a socket over them, bin the old ones and buy a new set for a tenner.
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14th Jul 11 at 14:56   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Or just sack the locking wheel nuts off unless they are mega bucks wheels. Pain in the arse them things
s4k1b
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14th Jul 11 at 15:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i hate locking wheel nuts. best bet to get rid of them really.

i had this problem with my astra.

u can get a replacement lock nut if you have the keycode - shud be in that little square black box the nuts came in.

if you aint got that your screwed... u need to bash them off.
Danny P
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Got the box so will nip down tomorrow. Will they have any ready made that I could just borrow to get rid of them (got the normal ones to replace then with) as dont really wanna fork out for a key.

If not I may resort to bashing them off
s4k1b
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14th Jul 11 at 15:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have u got the keycode in the box? i had the box but no code

so i tired bashing them off myself using several techniques - no luck.

so i ended up paying a garage £35 to take off all 4 nuts.

i think they welded an old nut onto the locking nut and then undid it. I THINK.

i definitely could not have got them off myself.

but its cheaper to get one from vaux.

when i enquired they said they had to ORDER it - but the mechanics would look for some old ones and try them. If they didnt have one and for them attempting to take them off the bashing way, they would charge me £30 an hour - and they werent sure how many hours it would take.
(dodgy fookers prob wanted to financially rape me - so i avoided vaux)
Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

FFS. Need to drive to Liverpool on Saturday an all, cant be doing that with the spare on.

bBest get my arse down there now and see what they say!
Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 15:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just been down & the code isnt in the box, whoever had car before me mustn't have put it back in the box

Vaux want £170 for bashing them off then a new set putting on Think i'll have a ring round some other garages first before shelling that much out!
Ben G
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14th Jul 11 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you'd be best of just smashing a socket over the top of them and taking them off yourself.

fair enough the socket will be fucked after but much cheaper than paying someone to get them off.
Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 16:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Being an absolute noob when it comes to anything to do with cars how would one go about doing that?

Just twat it with a hammer or summat
LeeM
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14th Jul 11 at 16:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get a 12 sided socket about the same size that will fit tightly, whack it on with a hammer and it should bring them off, 4 sockets should be less than a tenner from halfords, if you even need to use a new one for each wheel
Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The locking nut in question has a spinning top though (if that makes sense) so if I bang something onto that then i'm guessing it will just spin as it does now when I use my fingers?!?

I can grip the actual nut with my hand as there is a bit just before it goes into the hole, but I cant generate enough force to losen it even slightly.
Joe
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14th Jul 11 at 16:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Vauxhall ones are fucking tough and have a collar so will be hard just smacking a socket on..

Vauxhall will have a key to get them off for sure, there isn't that many combinations.
Stu_22
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14th Jul 11 at 17:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had the same problem vuaxhall said they would try their spare but suprise suprise no luck.
As said before you cant just smack a socket on because of the spinning ring.
I welded the ring onto the bolt then smacked a socket on
Danny P
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14th Jul 11 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What a massive pain in the arse.

Note to self - check you have everything before driving off
LeeM
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ah theyve got the ring on, ive got a set of those off before by mangling the rings with a really heavy duty screwdriver and then using the socket method
0775kieran
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What i do is use an air chisel, if you can get access to one it only takes a matter of 5 min or less.
ShEp
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Depends what type of locking nuts it is.

I highly recommend the snap-on lock nut removers they work really well.

Failing that your going to have to chisel off the outer ring on the nut (as it just spins freely of the rest of it)

Once the ring is removed you can hammer a socket on to remove the lock nut
DaveyLC
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15th Jul 11 at 07:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive got a "HOW TO" video on youtube with nearly 100,000 views lol!
s4k1b
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
you'd be best of just smashing a socket over the top of them and taking them off yourself.

fair enough the socket will be fucked after but much cheaper than paying someone to get them off.
i dont think u can, the outer ring just spins around.
Twiggy
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Ive got a "HOW TO" video on youtube with nearly 100,000 views lol!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Uc2SlkSPM
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by s4k1b
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
you'd be best of just smashing a socket over the top of them and taking them off yourself.

fair enough the socket will be fucked after but much cheaper than paying someone to get them off.
i dont think u can, the outer ring just spins around.


my dad did it, you need one that has grooves inside so it cuts into the existing locking nut.
Matty SRi
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15th Jul 11 at 16:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Maybe a stupid question, but did you go back to where you left it to see if its still there?
kav
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15th Jul 11 at 17:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had this problem and i had them welded off at a garage only cost me a tenner so it wasn't to bad
harrybanks
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16th Jul 11 at 18:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Try find a friendly vauxhall garage to let you borrow one from a sales car just to remove them, obviously finding the one thats the same as yours.

IIRC Just the key on its own is about 3 quid less than buying a new full set from Vaux.


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