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fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 12:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just moved into a house with a garage got the big garage door and a UPVC door but we dont have the keys anyone know how i can get into it without paying for a locksmith etc? i did try drilling but dont seem to of done anything
Claire
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30th Jul 11 at 12:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
We used a lock smith at work once who somehow broke the barrel out and then stuck a screw driver in to flip the lock inside. I'm not sure how he did it but given that UPVC doors almost always have multi-point locks, I think you will have to either drill the barrel or somehow break it out if you want to open the door without major damage.

If the multilocks are not engaged and its just been locked with the single key lock then you may be able to flex the door open... Burglars use a tool which looks like a cork screw which they wind in between the door and the frame and it flexes the door just enough to pop it open. It does leave a mark on the door/frame but only a small one.
Claire
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30th Jul 11 at 12:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
P.S. you should be able to see if the multi-point locks are engaged by pressing in the top or bottom corner of the door (assuming it opens away from you) and if it flexes in then they're probably not engaged.

P.P.S I'm not a burglar
DaveyLC
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30th Jul 11 at 12:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Drill the barrel out, take your time so you dont fuck it then you can replace the barrel.
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 12:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ive tried drilling but still wont do anything, i put a 3mm drill thru and then a 4mm, just bloody snapped 1 drill in there between posting!!
sxibeast
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30th Jul 11 at 12:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would have been best to drill with a 5mm bit as 3mm is too small! Try and get the broken bit out and ram a 5 down there!

Can you remove the handle assembly?
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yep can get inside and out, ive taken the handle off. just want to use the side door to get bits out instead of messing around unlocking the 3 locks on the main door
gtitim
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30th Jul 11 at 14:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I will PM you.
Tom G
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30th Jul 11 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
U2U'd
oceansoul
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30th Jul 11 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
C4?
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 15:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Claire Your a legend, instead of a cork screw thing used a chisel and popped open really easy. was drilling for hours and took less than a min with the chisel
AndyKent
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30th Jul 11 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Thats an awesome tip Claire.

Our house was burgled a few years back and they used a similar trick of forcing a narrow flathead screwdriver in between the door and frame at the lock point.

Quick tap and the door popped open. Policeman who visited showed us

Moral of the story, use multipoint locking.
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
andykent, this has 5 point locks, was so easy for me bcuz its only between wood not bricked in,
fazza
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30th Jul 11 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
any decent locksmith would have charged about £40-50quid to get in and replace the lock. not worth fucking around the time it will take to drill it for that imo
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 17:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well just saved £55 for a locksmith thats without replacing lock
Claire
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30th Jul 11 at 17:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Excellent!
_Allan_
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30th Jul 11 at 18:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
This is the only cylinder I'd replace it with. In fact i'd recommend everyone reading this to replace all their PVC door locks with this cylinder. All others can be broken in less than a minute. Even if the one linked is broken, entry cannot be gained. It is the only one on the market to retain it's cam when/if broken/snapped.

http://www.avocet-hardware.co.uk/abs-secure.asp

If you want to freak yourself out, look on you tube or google cylinder snapping or bumping. You'll shit bricks. If some of you reading this don't have your own house yet. I'd be showing these to your parents.

[Edited on 30-07-2011 by _Allan_]
taylorboosh
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30th Jul 11 at 18:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You drilled the lock so 30 for a new one
fred7
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30th Jul 11 at 19:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yeh but still saved £55 for a locksmith to do the same as i have done just abit quicker
fazza
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30th Jul 11 at 20:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fred7
yeh but still saved £55 for a locksmith to do the same as i have done just abit quicker


My old mans a locksmith and he would have charged 40-50quid including a new lock for u. defo not worth the hassle imo. locksmiths might be cheaper down here though?

there a cunt to drill
Dave
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30th Jul 11 at 20:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You don't need to drill them at all, twat them with a hammer and they snap where the screw goes into the cylinder, especially easy if you can get the handle off. The multipoint locking is only controlled by the cylinder, as soon as you disable that the locks open with the handle.
nathy_87
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31st Jul 11 at 12:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So what was in there after all that?
fred7
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haha at above, just seen u are from rugeley aswell not seen anyone else on here from there
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31st Jul 11 at 20:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
There's a Road Wars that shows you how to open a multiple lock upvc door with a spade. Used it on my neighbours when they were locked out and it worked. Cheers Thames Valley police

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31st Jul 11 at 20:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by _Allan_
This is the only cylinder I'd replace it with. In fact i'd recommend everyone reading this to replace all their PVC door locks with this cylinder. All others can be broken in less than a minute. Even if the one linked is broken, entry cannot be gained. It is the only one on the market to retain it's cam when/if broken/snapped.

http://www.avocet-hardware.co.uk/abs-secure.asp

If you want to freak yourself out, look on you tube or google cylinder snapping or bumping. You'll shit bricks. If some of you reading this don't have your own house yet. I'd be showing these to your parents.

[Edited on 30-07-2011 by _Allan_]


I ordered one last week. £33 good value.

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