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Generation
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31st Dec 11 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Runs out today, I have no money until
Tuesday, am I likely to get a fine automatically? Cars off road
thomson
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think you get 14 days of the date your current tax disc runs out to tax or sorn it.
has to be kept off the road tho.

just got the off the back off my v11.
Archie
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31st Dec 11 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Drove the Golf for a month without any, sorn'd it online on the 28th day of the month so it started thr sorn from the 1st of the month i was effectivly dodging.
Jed D
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you'll pay the back tax though. it wont be 6 or 12 month from the day you pay, it'l be from the day it ran out.
have not got money in a bank account, you can pay online

can also pay for it early for future reference
mattant
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31st Dec 11 at 19:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I had a look and there's a couple of answers:

quote:
You get 14 days to renew or declare SORN before an automatic fine is generated.

However, if you use your car during these 14 days (or it is parked on a public road) you can be prosecuted for failure to display a valid tax disc. The 14 days only applies if the car is kept off the road.


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Before the system was fully computerized you used to get a week or two's period of grace. Not any more. Come the 1st of the month that the tax is due, if it's not taxed or SORN, an £80 fine is on its way to you. (And you still have to pay the tax.)


quote:

To actually get this right for you, if your car is on the public highway there is NO grace period, and never has been officially.

This rumour grew up in the days when it was all done by hand and the authorities didn't bother to do anything about it if you were reported before a fortnight had gone by.

It is ONLY if your car is off the road that you have a 14 day period before they pursue you to either tax it or SORN it. You are still technically illegal as soon as either the tax or SORN has run out.

Did you know you can do it online, up to and including the 31st? You don't have to dig out your MoT or insurance certificate, as that will be checked automatically while you're actually at it. Once you've done that and they've confirmed it a recent change in the law gives you 5 days to allow for the disc to come in the post.

You cannot tax online once the present tax has expired.

If your friend is on the road with an expired tax she's running a big risk, as with computerisation they can tell immediately what the position is and if DVLA are carrying out one of their "purges" she's likely to have the car seized on the spot.
Generation
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31st Dec 11 at 19:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
It's definatly not being driven as it is having engine rebuilt
Archie
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
you'll pay the back tax though. it wont be 6 or 12 month from the day you pay, it'l be from the day it ran out.
have not got money in a bank account, you can pay online

can also pay for it early for future reference




Well i got a full 6 months when i taxed mine, i sorn'd it about the 27th or something and drove it on sorn til the 30th.
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31st Dec 11 at 19:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
"You cannot tax online once the present tax has expired".

That bit isn't true, I recently taxed my van which was over by about a week.

You'll get a reminder letter through the post before they take any action anyway and since it's off the road you aren't going to be flagged by police or the DVLA vans.
Tom J
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31st Dec 11 at 19:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
can't you just sorn it til its back on the road, you can do it online so its no bother
Dave
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom J
can't you just sorn it til its back on the road, you can do it online so its no bother


This, no point paying tax on a car that isn't being driven.
Tom J
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yeah thats what i did when i was fixing mine, then just waited til end of month so had a month no tax
providing you have other means of transport in the meantime?
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31st Dec 11 at 19:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Technically no grace period.

I SORN'd mine although it would only be a few days, not worth risking it.

You can SORN online in a few minutes.

I then couldn't tax it online and had to go to a PO branch to do it which was a pain in the ass but it was all legal.

Also - use a different car to go to the PO.
Tom J
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31st Dec 11 at 19:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yeah i just went to the post office
redtom
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31st Dec 11 at 20:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Varies

Pulsar went untaxed for a couple of months atleast and nothing was said

Nova got a last chance reminder through literally a couple of days after it was up
Generation
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Post office is pretty impossible for me, work nowhere near one and leave home before mine is open and get back when it's shut can you normally retax online after SORN? Was yours an exceptional case ian
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No idea, was only three days after SORN was declared though.

In reality you should be fine but I wouldn't trust those fine happy bastards, I've been done when SORN was first introduced for a car in bits on a shelf despite sending the paperwork off.

[Edited on 31-12-2011 by Ian]
Generation
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The fact bank holiday is tomorrow and Monday should help. Just don't have time to fuck with post office

 
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