Fonz
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my Gf's Honda Jazz has just ticked over 74k, being 10k miles since its last service and is also ten years old so wanted to find out what to expect from the 10 year service
phone up my local Honda dealer to find out 1) what is required 2) price
answer came back
this will be a full service which is priced at £369
ok - i was expecting it to be £££ being a major service
me: what is included in that?
her: for our full service we will:
change the oil and oil filter
Air filter
and the spark plugs
me:  - is that it?
her: yes sir, this is our full service package
me:   right ok thank you, bye!
i was fully expecting something bigger after ten years, a belt to be changed pr something considerable, particularly for that price!
i could do all that in less than two hours and save her £300!!
is this really typical costing of a "full service"??
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John
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A full service will be changing the pollen filter as well as the oil one.
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Ben G
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main dealer prices.
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corsajay88
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£369 for that  . must be solid gold spark plugs.
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Tom G
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Thats mental, when i worked in a garage they used to do them all day long, thats a very high price
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sc0ott
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Take it to a honda 'specialist'. Be cheaper and at least you know things will get done.
You could do it yourself but can you stamp it as well?
Or you could do all that yourself, get honda to do the belts etc and still get the stamp?
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LeeM
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That's what's changed, they should also check everything as well like measure brakes and whatnot.
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CORSA NUT
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I used to watch the lads at Lexus spending half an hour on a 2 hour job, £120 an hour labour iirc Fucking daylight robbery and the way they make there money unfortunately.
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John
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Stamp will make no difference at all when coming to sell a 10 year old Jazz.
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sc0ott
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Would rather spend that little more buying a car with service history than one without, especially if it was 10 years old.
Could make it easier to sell.
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LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I used to watch the lads at Lexus spending half an hour on a 2 hour job, £120 an hour labour iirc Fucking daylight robbery and the way they make there money unfortunately.
I agree it's expensive, but it's a specialised field that takes a long time to learn and master and they have thousands of pounds worth of tools.
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Mattb
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Originally posted by corsajay88
£369 for that . must be solid gold spark plugs.
No that will be for all 8 spark plugs.....
that is a tad on the high side - we do it for £329 (audi)
But yeh. main dealers arent cheap and im not sure what some people on here expect? Same price as joey shit cowboy down the back ally automotive?
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Ben G
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joey shit cowboy probably does a better job tbh 
i'm not saying you're shit, i've just seen how ford let their apprentice mechanics loose on new cars, so wouldn't put it past me that honda do the same.
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Matty SRi
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If you know how to, I'd do it yourself. alot if people don't know how to or have the tools for it, which is why they get away with charging that much.
Also, am I only the only person that doesn't give a shit about service history when buying a car? If it isn't running right then don't buy it, if it is then I don't care about who or where serviced it 5 years ago?
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Sunz
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Maybe joey shit cowboy does a better job as he doesn't have a big badge and building to get the business rolling in, so maybe he values his customers better.
VW garage here is full of apprentices, bunch a chavs they are too, wouldn't want any of them working on a car I hard.
Last time I had a service it was £160, can't see how a Honda Jazz needs anything special.
I only worry about service history when it comes to cambelts, other stuff is easy to check.
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by Sunz]
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stan_the_man
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See if you can get a copy of the 10th service checklist as there may be loads of checks to do which take time.
I'm a service advisor so I'd personally recommend the genuine Honda one due to it being genuine parts and carried out to Hondas recommendations/guidelines etc, but I'd also offer a cheaper one as an option. Also I'd assume that the engine has a timing chain but don't quote me.
At that age of car, I'd personally do it myself or go non-genuine.
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by stan_the_man]
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corsajay88
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
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Originally posted by corsajay88
£369 for that . must be solid gold spark plugs.
No that will be for all 8 spark plugs.....
that is a tad on the high side - we do it for £329 (audi)
8 spark plugs? Pics of v8 honda jazz please im Intrigued
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by corsajay88]
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Dave
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Far too much kudos attached to main dealer servicing, even the genuine/pattern parts argument is open to debate. Is an oe oil filter any different than a Mann/Fram one, are brake pads from a dealer going to be better than Pagid/Mintex etc from a factors?
For anything other than warranty work I always use a local garage who I know and trust. No disrespect to the people who work in main dealers, it's simply the costs involved.
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Mertin
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Mines away into a main dealer tomorrow for a service and cambelt change. Theres not really any independant specialists local to me, there is the place I bought the car from but he doesnt take too much interest in servicing so usually pretty hard to get it booked in at a convenient time, and think he works out at the same price as seat's fixed price servicing / maintenance that they have just now
And just because an apprentice is a chav / looks like one or is young doesnt mean he isnt capable of carrying out an oil change or changing brake pads etc
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by Mertin]
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CORSA NUT
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I used to watch the lads at Lexus spending half an hour on a 2 hour job, £120 an hour labour iirc Fucking daylight robbery and the way they make there money unfortunately.
I agree it's expensive, but it's a specialised field that takes a long time to learn and master and they have thousands of pounds worth of tools.
Specialist field??? there not aeronaughtical engineers! There not even mechanics. There 'technicians' who just plug in a diagnostic or look on a dealer network computer. Plus the fact they spend thousands on tools is laughable, they do it for show as most of the stuff they actually use you could use Halfords professional and not get stuck.
Plus they get paid about £12 an hour so were does the other £108 go?  I've worked in the motor trade so I know how the bullshit rolls
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stan_the_man
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
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Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I used to watch the lads at Lexus spending half an hour on a 2 hour job, £120 an hour labour iirc Fucking daylight robbery and the way they make there money unfortunately.
I agree it's expensive, but it's a specialised field that takes a long time to learn and master and they have thousands of pounds worth of tools.
Specialist field??? there not aeronaughtical engineers! There not even mechanics. There 'technicians' who just plug in a diagnostic or look on a dealer network computer. Plus the fact they spend thousands on tools is laughable, they do it for show as most of the stuff they actually use you could use Halfords professional and not get stuck.
Plus they get paid about £12 an hour so were does the other £108 go? I've worked in the motor trade so I know how the bullshit rolls
I wasn't aware it's now possible to service cars with a computer now?
My work charges £68+vat per hour.
Out of that you have to pay the mechanic who's doing the work, the service advisor who sorts all the paperwork and looks after the customer, the valeter who washes and hoovers the car, insurance, electricity and consumables. Granted it leaves a fair amount of profit, but nowhere near as much as people think.
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Joe
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quote:
Originally posted by corsajay88
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Originally posted by Mattb
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Originally posted by corsajay88
£369 for that . must be solid gold spark plugs.
No that will be for all 8 spark plugs.....
that is a tad on the high side - we do it for £329 (audi)
8 spark plugs? Pics of v8 honda jazz please im Intrigued
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by corsajay88]
2 plugs per cylinder on a jazz.
Also of course they have thousands of pounds worth of stuff. Not saying they will use it on a jazz as they won't but it costs money to have the latest software, newest tools, immaculate workshops etc.
Internet is full of absolute retards when it comes to the motor industry. There will always be cheaper, better, easier ways of doing things but it's not a charity. Of course you need to make money. Charging £100 on a service that takes half an hour is probably normal. No garage could possibly make a first service on a normal car take 2 hours, there simply isn't enough to do.
The Internet.
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CORSA NUT
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quote:
Originally posted by stan_the_man
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
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Originally posted by LeeM
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
I used to watch the lads at Lexus spending half an hour on a 2 hour job, £120 an hour labour iirc Fucking daylight robbery and the way they make there money unfortunately.
I agree it's expensive, but it's a specialised field that takes a long time to learn and master and they have thousands of pounds worth of tools.
Specialist field??? there not aeronaughtical engineers! There not even mechanics. There 'technicians' who just plug in a diagnostic or look on a dealer network computer. Plus the fact they spend thousands on tools is laughable, they do it for show as most of the stuff they actually use you could use Halfords professional and not get stuck.
Plus they get paid about £12 an hour so were does the other £108 go? I've worked in the motor trade so I know how the bullshit rolls
I wasn't aware it's now possible to service cars with a computer now?
My work charges £68+vat per hour.
Out of that you have to pay the mechanic who's doing the work, the service advisor who sorts all the paperwork and looks after the customer, the valeter who washes and hoovers the car, insurance, electricity and consumables. Granted it leaves a fair amount of profit, but nowhere near as much as people think.
Well £68 is a tad different than £120 isn't it? Also a monkey could service a car. Any other problems and it's the computer that tells them the fault AND how to fix it! funny how only the old timers are allowed to do rebuilds etc
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CORSA NUT
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe
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Originally posted by corsajay88
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Originally posted by Mattb
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Originally posted by corsajay88
£369 for that . must be solid gold spark plugs.
No that will be for all 8 spark plugs.....
that is a tad on the high side - we do it for £329 (audi)
8 spark plugs? Pics of v8 honda jazz please im Intrigued
[Edited on 29-03-2012 by corsajay88]
2 plugs per cylinder on a jazz.
Also of course they have thousands of pounds worth of stuff. Not saying they will use it on a jazz as they won't but it costs money to have the latest software, newest tools, immaculate workshops etc.
Internet is full of absolute retards when it comes to the motor industry. There will always be cheaper, better, easier ways of doing things but it's not a charity. Of course you need to make money. Charging £100 on a service that takes half an hour is probably normal. No garage could possibly make a first service on a normal car take 2 hours, there simply isn't enough to do.
The Internet.
The Joe has spoken all is sorted. And can I just remind you that you spend most of your life on the Internet so if you don't like it the fuck off
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Joe
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They really don't, anyone who knows anything knows it isn't that straight forward
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