BluKoo
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After six years of working hard to firmly establish our reputation, we’ve finally been rewarded with our first ever hypercar detail; a no holds barred Ne Plus Ultra on a 2003 Rosso Corsa Enzo Ferrari. With just over 7k km on the clock and mechanically excellent, the only thing letting the car down was the state of the bodywork, which showed all of the classic signs of many years of improper washing and maintenance. Ferrari paint is usually quite soft on pre-2005 cars, but early on in the detail it became apparent that the paint on the Enzo was rock hard and was going to need compounding with wool if a near perfect result was going to be achieved. Ultimately just over 144 hours were required to complete the detail, with more than 96 hours of this time being spent carefully machine polishing the bodywork to near perfect condition. To celebrate this detail we have made a short film for you to enjoy. It is obviously impossible to show everything that was done to the car in just six and a half minutes, but we do hope that it gives you a flavour of the effort we put into our work and the breathtaking thing of beauty that is an Enzo Ferrari.
Viewing notes: Due to the length and high definition quality of the film, we recommend that you pause playback immediately and then allow it to pre-load completely before watching it. If it still does not play perfectly smoothly, try watching it on a more powerful playback device, or else turn HD off and watch it in SD instead. The sound quality used is equally good as the 1080p footage, so if you are able to play the film through a cinema surround sound system or through good quality headphones you will enjoy it all the more!
http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/blog/2012/04/enzo-ferrari-ne-plus-ultra/
[Edited on 17-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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Matty SRi
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How long would the results last though? IE. in a week or 2, would it look like it hasnt been detailed at all? Or is it long lasting stuff?
Brilliant results, but i dont see the point in spending so much money just for photos, if this is the case.
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Tomnova16
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rich did my m3, after six months it was still pretty flawless and effortless to clean.
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BluKoo
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If you considder that this Enzo is 9 years old and has only covered 7000 km, then you can tell this isn't a daily driver, and it's probably only out on nice dry days.
If that's the case, and the owner washes it correctly, it could stay defect free for up to a couple of years.
The level of protection on this means that a good wash with a pressure washer should have it spotless again with no need to even touch the paint.
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Matty SRi
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Ahh right, well worth it then. I was under the impression that after a few weeks/washes it would just be back to how it used to be.
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty SRi
Ahh right, well worth it then. I was under the impression that after a few weeks/washes it would just be back to how it used to be.
Not at all, but don't worry. It's a common misconception.
A good paint correction detail and protection should last for ages as long as the car is looked after.
Dirt will find it harder to stick to the paint, so it's much more easily cleaned and 9 time out of 10 it won't even need to be touched by a mitt to be cleaned.
[Edited on 18-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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BluKoo
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I surprised there have been so few comments about this video after the amount of people slagging off the effort in the behind the scenes thread.
I can only assume no one wants to eat humble pie and admit it was worth it  
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Steve
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It's a good video purely because it features a brilliant car and the video work isnt bad either. It doesn't provide any interest for me in the detailing side, nothing new is shown and doesn't make me any more inclined to want to use polished bliss nor does it make me any more inclined to alter my opinion that the costs are ridiculous
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BarnshaW
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
I surprised there have been so few comments about this video after the amount of people slagging off the effort in the behind the scenes thread.
I can only assume no one wants to eat humble pie and admit it was worth it
or I still think its utterly ridiculous and completely OTT
Yes its a hypercar however if i wanted to see one I would just go on youtube and see one actually being driven.
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BarnshaW]
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3CorsaMeal
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Not watched it yet, but wouldn't it be quicker than 144hrs to respray it?
Also how come 2003 ferrari paint is soft, yet this is rock hard? Who makes up the pre 2005 soft rule and i hope they stuck it up their arse after that? Ferrari must of had some hard paint lying around that needed using up?
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BluKoo
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Maybe it's a case that most 2003 Ferrari paint is soft, but because the Enzo is carbon bodied and the layer of paint is so thin, they changed the paint.
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
Not watched it yet, but wouldn't it be quicker than 144hrs to respray it?
Also how come 2003 ferrari paint is soft, yet this is rock hard? Who makes up the pre 2005 soft rule and i hope they stuck it up their arse after that? Ferrari must of had some hard paint lying around that needed using up?
I honestly don't know how long it would take to respray it, but I'm guessing the detail would have been cheaper than a full respray. Also after the respray, it wouldn't have had a finish as flawless as this and it wouldn't be protected.
Also the wheels, interior and glass wouldn't have been touched with just a respray.
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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John
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144 hours still doesn't add up to me.
That's about 2 weeks worth of work for 1 guy and even if they charged 2k they'd still not be making much per hour.
By the time you take into account the guy spending 23 hours a day taking pictures and editing them + materials you'd be losing money.
They are obviously making money so one of the figures is wrong.
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BluKoo
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Originally posted by John
144 hours still doesn't add up to me.
That's about 2 weeks worth of work for 1 guy and even if they charged 2k they'd still not be making much per hour.
By the time you take into account the guy spending 23 hours a day taking pictures and editing them + materials you'd be losing money.
They are obviously making money so one of the figures is wrong.
It was a 2 week booking it had, so you'd be looking at about £4k for a job like this.
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Tomnova16
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Enzo got the same paint as all other ferraris, PPG, tbh i never noticed any ferraris with soft paint unless they had been refinished at some point
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BluKoo
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Glad your here Tom. 3CM's question about it being quicker for a respray got me thinking, so I did a little research and I got this...
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Originally posted by Streetrod
Ok I have sprayed a number of cars, but I am not a professional, but my cars have been painted to show winning standards. If this Enzo's body is in good shape, i.e. it has no damage then you would not need to strip the car down to bare carbon fibre. But you would need to flat sand the body to create a perfect flaw free base. You would then spray on a sealer to lock in the base coats. This would be followed by 2 - 3 coats of primer which again would be flatted to come up with a perfect base. This would then be followed by 2 - 3 coats of colour. If you were being a perfectionist you would then have to colour sand this colour coat to a perfect matt finish. Once that is flawless you would then spray 2 - 3 coats of clear. Once again you would flat that to remove any trace of orange peel followed by a machine polish and wax. If done right you should end up with a perfect finish.
So how long and how much would this cost. I would expect a minimum of 300 hours work at £50 per hour so that's £15000 in labour with added costs like paint etc expect to pay a minimum of £20,000 from a good paint shop. Now remember that just for paint and does not include any body work
Does this seem right to you?
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
Glad your here Tom. 3CM's question about it being quicker for a respray got me thinking, so I did a little research and I got this...
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Originally posted by Streetrod
Ok I have sprayed a number of cars, but I am not a professional, but my cars have been painted to show winning standards. If this Enzo's body is in good shape, i.e. it has no damage then you would not need to strip the car down to bare carbon fibre. But you would need to flat sand the body to create a perfect flaw free base. You would then spray on a sealer to lock in the base coats. This would be followed by 2 - 3 coats of primer which again would be flatted to come up with a perfect base. This would then be followed by 2 - 3 coats of colour. If you were being a perfectionist you would then have to colour sand this colour coat to a perfect matt finish. Once that is flawless you would then spray 2 - 3 coats of clear. Once again you would flat that to remove any trace of orange peel followed by a machine polish and wax. If done right you should end up with a perfect finish.
So how long and how much would this cost. I would expect a minimum of 300 hours work at £50 per hour so that's £15000 in labour with added costs like paint etc expect to pay a minimum of £20,000 from a good paint shop. Now remember that just for paint and does not include any body work
Does this seem right to you?
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BluKoo]
I reckon to Tom thats about right, he wanted £400-£500 to do an old escort bumper 
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3CorsaMeal
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Also £20k for a respray , surely that would make most cars a write off if they needed a respray, or is it more expensive as its a ferrari?
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BluKoo
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I guess for a top quality car you want a top quality job, so sometimes you pay top quality prices.
£20k does seem a little excessive to me too, but even if you half that, it makes this detail very good value for money as the car keeps its originality.
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BarnshaW
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on the flip side of it though, if your rich enough to pay 4k for a detail why not go the whole hog and get a full lick of paint, got to be better then having a layer of paint removed from the car
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3CorsaMeal
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I spose £4k on a ferrari enzo in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad really, probably end up spending more on tyres in its life
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
on the flip side of it though, if your rich enough to pay 4k for a detail why not go the whole hog and get a full lick of paint, got to be better then having a layer of paint removed from the car
They're not really losing a layer of paint. A few microns of clear coat will have been removed. And I think the detail will leave you with a better finish.
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I spose £4k on a ferrari enzo in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad really, probably end up spending more on tyres in its life
Yeah. I'd hate to think what a set costs
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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BarnshaW
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here is a question, say for example someone had a ferrari enzo and you took a both doors off , you then got polished bliss to detail one door and then someone else (another company) or someone competent with a machine polisher to detail the other and then you done a survey to see if people could tell the difference in who done what panel do you think they would be able to spot the polishedbliss detailed panel over someone elses?
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thegsi
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That is an incredible video. The results and dedication are a credit to you.
Fair play mate 
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
here is a question, say for example someone had a ferrari enzo and you took a both doors off , you then got polished bliss to detail one door and then someone else (another company) or someone competent with a machine polisher to detail the other and then you done a survey to see if people could tell the difference in who done what panel do you think they would be able to spot the polishedbliss detailed panel over someone elses?
If both doors had exactly the same level of defects, then it would be down to the level of correction achieved while removing the least amount of paint/clear coat.
Also the depth and quality of the shine.
It's not all about being able to use a machine polisher. It's about using the correct combination of polish & pads etc, then using the best lsp suited the the paint. It's even down the the technique used when applying it.
My brother is regarded as one of the best in the country, so I believe that there would be a difference.
Good question though. It'd be good to try out.
ps. I'm not saying no one else can achieve the same, but if they can then they could potentially make a living as a detailer.
[Edited on 20-04-2012 by BluKoo]
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Steve
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why is he recognised as being one the best? because he charges the most and posts the best edited pictures on internet forums?
i bet you couldnt tell the difference between a rch h detail for a couple of hundred and this
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