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Mattb

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26th Apr 12 at 19:34

Ok, so i dont have a mad scientist, and even worse my apprentice has buggered off somewhere sunny for two weeks leaving me deal with this..

So its not a corsa - or even a vauxhall but it may interest some..
Early R8 V8 - 2007 iirc thats a little bit of a hero at work, mainly due to it being a daily drive for the owner on about 80k in 5 years.
Unfortunately it was recovered in today beltching out white / blue smoke... Joy
So i compression tested it - healthy on bank 1 - all around 13Bar - bank 2 - not so good - lows of 9.6 iirc.
So dropped the 'sump' to find some large chunks of metal and plenty of fine swarf in the oil.
The owner has agreed for the engine to be removed so i can take the heads off and see whats going on. Hopefully we can get a decent contribution from Audi as it looks like its going to need a new engine pending the head removal..

So only pic of today - i will upload more as i progress if theres any interest

[Edited on 27-04-2012 by Mattb]

[Edited on 06-06-2012 by Mattb]

andy_mk3

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26th Apr 12 at 19:37

I love the car specific covers

More pics when stuff happens please

Dave

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26th Apr 12 at 19:40

What are your first thoughts as to whats gone wrong?

FlaFFy_91

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26th Apr 12 at 19:47

where do you actualy work matt?

SportBoy

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26th Apr 12 at 19:48

Skoda...

John

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26th Apr 12 at 19:49

Looks like it might be a vauxhall garage to me.

FAZ

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26th Apr 12 at 19:49

looks like a kwik fit garage iirc

Mattb

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26th Apr 12 at 19:51

I am leaning towards maybe piston rings - the thick smoke cleared quickly and ended up being a constant blue after a while - i have had unconfirmed reports the car had an oil pump at some point, so the engine may have been damaged due to low oil pressure and finally gave up - but i need to check this.

The metal i found in the sump didnt look like bearing material so possibly could be ring. Either way the head needs to be removed

The Covers are good - nice and thick - they can be joined and completly wrap the car!

CorsAsh

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26th Apr 12 at 19:52

How come it has the Euro plate holders? Is it not UK registered?

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26th Apr 12 at 19:58

i had similar the other day, all be it on a new astra j, 5 miles and it was smoking like crazy.
block not cleaned after machining= massive scores in the bore and rings toasted.
was nice ripping apart a brand new car though.

have pics of many a mangled vauxhall engine.
r8 looks a much tougher prospect.

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26th Apr 12 at 20:09

Sounds like an expensive fix, I wouldn't be happy if my r8 engine was buggered after 80,000 miles.

Do you get some special warranty for such cars when you buy them ?

Dave

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26th Apr 12 at 20:16

Same as any other new Audi really. If you have a service book full of Audi stamps they might contribute to repairs like this though but it's at their discretion.

SportBoy

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26th Apr 12 at 20:18

Audi ... reassuringly expensive

sc0ott

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26th Apr 12 at 20:35

Fuck it, still an xe in there.

Mattb

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26th Apr 12 at 22:03

quote:
Originally posted by shane_o
i had similar the other day, all be it on a new astra j, 5 miles and it was smoking like crazy.
block not cleaned after machining= massive scores in the bore and rings toasted.
was nice ripping apart a brand new car though.

have pics of many a mangled vauxhall engine.
r8 looks a much tougher prospect.

Had an A5 to warm up with on tuesday....

Mattb

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26th Apr 12 at 22:04

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Same as any other new Audi really. If you have a service book full of Audi stamps they might contribute to repairs like this though but it's at their discretion.

I doubt very much the owner will be footing the full bill

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27th Apr 12 at 12:51

How much would the bill be, roughly?

Mattb

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27th Apr 12 at 18:56

quote:
Originally posted by Nath
How much would the bill be, roughly?

Not sure £15k - £20k

Rich H

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27th Apr 12 at 19:02

quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
How come it has the Euro plate holders? Is it not UK registered?

Not to argue with somebody who actually works at Audi

but...

are they not just standard 'Wurth' plate holders that a large majority of recent Audi's are fitted with from the dealer these days? Don't remember working on an R8 or any other recent Audi without them tbh.

On topic again, interesting thread!

Mattb

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27th Apr 12 at 19:13

Ok, so i got left alone for once to get on with my work..
Started stripping the car etc so i can remove the head

Rear bumper off:

Silencer off:

Then found engine oil in left bank exhaust - more evidence of a problem this side

Anyways - onwards etc - Lid lock frame off - and another frame out the engine bay etc - both carbon sideblades off so i could undo the engine ECU (x2) earths

Interior stripped so the internal loom and tracker wiring could be fed into the engine bay

Few more bits and bobs off etc - fluid lines off, ac drained etc etc - engine ready to come out

And out

Removed the cylinder head on the left bank - didn't look so good both sides down the inlet..

So it looks like the bores have worn (they dont look that bad from the picture)
The special coating on the bores have visably worn, and scores are visable and can also be felt with your finger nail. Turning the engine over by hand reveals that oil is being left on the bores so unfortuately its going to need an engine

As i left it this eve

On the plus side we had our 3rd GT delivered today - number 131 - spyder - very cool, carbon screen surround and rear deck lid vents also carbon

Rich H

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27th Apr 12 at 19:16

GT =

And

at just how much has to be stripped to remove the engine - don't envy you doing that at all! Guess not it needs a new engine, it's a waiting game to see how much Audi will contribute towards it before going any further?

Mattb

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27th Apr 12 at 19:22

indeed - we are hoping audi will contribute heavily towards the repair - the guys owned the car from new and it has never been inside another garage except ours

Yeh, its pretty burried in there - it was out by about 3:30ish so thats about 7.5 hours to get it out - the A5 i did in the weeks was out in under 2

Graham88

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27th Apr 12 at 19:22

That's mental, all that for an engine out

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27th Apr 12 at 19:44

Split me.

How much does Audi charge per hour in the workshop? £150-200?

Interesting thread. Well done for documenting it. R8 or A3 you wouldn't expect a failure at 80k. I'd be expecting some sizable contribution from Audi if it were me.

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Mattb

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28th Apr 12 at 10:40

Indeed - considering the block is pretty much RS4 80k is too little for wear

Its a shame these engines cant be rebuilt as such.. would have been a decent job

Labour rate is £120 + VAT (£144 p/h) at our place (i think it may even be the same across all dealers

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