Nismo
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176
File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.
Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.
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John
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SSL Newsgroups ftw.
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noshua
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quote:
Originally posted by John
SSL Newsgroups ftw.
Won't stop anyone who has half a brain though. Not the answer to the problem either!
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Toby
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It appears to be the way forward.
Who is Everything Everywhere? Orange/Tmob?
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Sunz
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Couldn't you connect to it when the ip is banned if you use VPN ?
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AlunJ
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Fro
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It's going to get worse over time, won't stop at piracy sites.
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noshua
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunz
Couldn't you connect to it when the ip is banned if you use VPN ?
Yup
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Bart
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Interesting, seeing as the court with more power (European Court of Justice) has already ruled that no courts will force ISPs to take down sites.
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Originally posted by John
SSL Newsgroups ftw.
They have already started asking newsgroups to be removed....
[Edited on 30-04-2012 by Bart]
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John
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By the time that happens there will be SSL something else.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by noshua
quote:
Originally posted by John
SSL Newsgroups ftw.
Won't stop anyone who has half a brain though. Not the answer to the problem either!
They'd have to remove complete access to usenet providers, which would mean VM blocking it's own usenet service (Highwinds is technically the provider) as that hosts dodge binaries  However they couldn't transparently filter or DPI the SSL traffic in real-time (Sonicwall springs to mind but from what i've heard it's based on MITM and tends to cause more problems with SSL traffic than it's worth), so it'd be a complete or nothing block.
Edit - I'm surprised tunnelling or SSL hasn't been added to Torrent connections; would make it nie impossible to DPI or block.
[Edited on 30-04-2012 by Dom]
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Sunz
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quote:
Originally posted by noshua
quote:
Originally posted by Sunz
Couldn't you connect to it when the ip is banned if you use VPN ?
Yup
Thanks.
I wasn't too sure but all my mate goes on about it how great VPN is.
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noshua
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You can get a good UK/EU based VPN for about a fiver a month. All your ISP will think you're doing is sending and receiving data from the VPN IP, no matter what website you visit or whatever you download.
GigaNews offer a VPN with their Usenet service but no doubt you could get it cheaper seperately such as Astraweb ($11/m or $96/year) and any VPN provider.
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LeeM
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First step to communism.
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Toby
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does anyone use a VPN with Usenet?
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John
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Not sure why you'd have to.
SSL means that the ISP only knows that you are downloading from a usenet server.
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Rob_Quads
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Its such a scam. When are they going to be blocking google? Oh no they won't do that as they have too much money
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LeeM
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it would be fantastic to see people get together and take the government to court (if thats even possible?)
fucking media censorship is the sort of thing happening in north korea, it shouldnt be happening in a free nation.
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Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Not sure why you'd have to.
SSL means that the ISP only knows that you are downloading from a usenet server.
Just reading Noshua's post and was a question aimed towards that, maybe I misinterpreted what he meant by VPN and maybe he was referring to SSL.
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noshua
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Most (all?) premium usenet providers offer SSL encryption with their servers. You'd be silly not to use SSL with usenet.
The VPN I was referring to is what Giganews offer in addition to their usenet service; http://www.giganews.com/
So you can use it to effectively encrypt general traffic that for some reason you don't want your ISP to see.
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John
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Just had a look at the giganews packages, you do get storage and vpn but 3 times the price of astraweb 
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noshua
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Yup, stupidly expensive. Like I said you can purchase them all separate and still get it cheaper, probably with better companies (i.e. extra features too).
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AndyKent
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
it would be fantastic to see people get together and take the government to court (if thats even possible?)
fucking media censorship is the sort of thing happening in north korea, it shouldnt be happening in a free nation.
Since when did free nation mean you could steal copyright material?
You'd be pissed if someone ripped off your photography, or web design, or patent either as their own or got a proper copy without paying.
I don't see why people are pissing themselves over this. Its illegal, you know it, I know it. More pissed that you might have to pay for something.
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John
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Some people will be like that Andy but when you start to arbitrarily censor the Internet it's a slippery slope.
PirateBay is clearly 99% for illegal sharing but it won't stop there.
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Matty L
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http://labaia.ws/browse/201/0/7
U can access pirate bay with the above link
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