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Ian
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3rd Sep 12 at 00:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got someone wants to buy this - http://www.pumapeople.com/decode.php

The desktop software to do it is free but not automatic as you'd need to be a computer and type in the stuff.

There are Ebay auctions from very low amounts but not automatics either as that's just a guy running the desktop software.

With mine, he could sell all day every day and stuff could be delivered electronically and he just takes the money.

I could also knock something up automated to take payment but not sure how much it would return if its not advertised properly, which I've not really the energy to do. Although once that was in place I could get other data sets.

Still could even if I sell that one. Thoughts?
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License him to use it rather than sell surely? Take a cut of each code issued.
Russ
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3rd Sep 12 at 07:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or steal his idea and do it yourself?
Gary
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3rd Sep 12 at 07:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I don't get why he is asking. If he wants to decode folks radios he can just use that for free?
Ian
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3rd Sep 12 at 08:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He wants to automate it, which he can do with my software but not the desktop software.
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Value is hard to gauge until you know how much he would sell each decode for - or more to the point how much people are willing to pay for such a service?

Question is, what do Joe Garage charge on the street for this?

If there is a market for it then why not do it yourself?

You are pretty high on the first page of 'ford radio decode free' on google which is good, question is do you want to charge for it? I remember our discussions regarding making it for registered members only on PP, could just make alot of people do a hit and run.

[Edited on 03-09-2012 by willay]
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3rd Sep 12 at 09:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How many times have people used it?
James
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I'd do it yourself. With a bit of Google Adwords you could increase the number of visitors. Throw on some subtle Google Adsense targeted to Ford owners and you could make a bit of money.
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How recent a stereo will this decode?

If it's only up to 2005 etc, it' surely a diminishing market, I'd sell and run.
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Is there not a possibility of extending to other manufacturers?
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I cant see there is any money in any of it tbh, i dont even understand how ebay sellers get away with selling it when anyone can download the stuff for free from loads of places on the net.
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3rd Sep 12 at 17:32   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ebay did 46 sales at .99 but this is feedback items, so maybe more.
ROI ,

Looks like its doing 400 ish a year,


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3rd Sep 12 at 19:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I cant see there is any money in any of it tbh, i dont even understand how ebay sellers get away with selling it when anyone can download the stuff for free from loads of places on the net.


I'd rather pay someone 99p than download some dodgy shite that may fuck my computer up
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I cant see there is any money in any of it tbh, i dont even understand how ebay sellers get away with selling it when anyone can download the stuff for free from loads of places on the net.


I'd rather pay someone 99p than download some dodgy shite that may fuck my computer up


http://free.avg.com/gb-en/homepage
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3rd Sep 12 at 19:31   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

GTFO. If I want to run some dodgy software that bad I virtual machine it
Ian
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Price more than zero is based on the above and whether people actually know about it.

There's definitely people paying a quid or so.

And yeah, newest car with one in is about 2004.

I could extend to more, just means doing the same for other radios. Basically anything which can be decoded on the serial number has an algorithm which can be obtained and made in to a web app, and therefore get Paypal call backs and all that fancy jazz.
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YOu might want to think about expanding. Renaults are another one that can be decoded by serial number, Tuner List etc. stereos. I've got a generator if you want it Ian
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Yeah rename it as RAR and mail it over, I fancy some more data sets.
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At 99p over PayPal your well within just about everyone's give a fuck throw away budget. Try expanding
Ian
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3rd Sep 12 at 22:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wouldn't mind some code snippets to autorespond a Paypal email with some code numbers if anyone has anything.
Chris
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3rd Sep 12 at 22:16   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You could create a mailbox reader app, then parse the emails that enter then repond with answer.

Telnet mail.server.com:25
HELO
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Imports System.IO
Imports EAGetMail 'imports EAGetMail namespace

Module Module1
Sub Main()
' Create a folder named "inbox" under current directory
' to save the email retrieved.
Dim curpath As String = Directory.GetCurrentDirectory()
Dim mailbox As String = [String].Format("{0}\inbox", curpath)

' If the folder is not existed, create it.
If Not Directory.Exists(mailbox) Then
Directory.CreateDirectory(mailbox)
End If

' Gmail IMAP server is "imap.gmail.com"
Dim oServer As New MailServer("imap.gmail.com", _
"gmailid@gmail.com", "yourpassword", ServerProtocol.Imap4 )
Dim oClient As New MailClient("TryIt")

' Enable SSL connection
oServer.SSLConnection = True

' Set IMAP4 SSL port
oServer.Port = 993

Try
oClient.Connect(oServer)
Dim infos As MailInfo() = oClient.GetMailInfos()
For i As Integer = 0 To infos.Length - 1
Dim info As MailInfo = infos(i)
Console.WriteLine("Index: {0}; Size: {1}; UIDL: {2}", _
info.Index, info.Size, info.UIDL)

' Receive email from Gmail server
Dim oMail As Mail = oClient.GetMail(info)

Console.WriteLine("From: {0}", oMail.From.ToString())
Console.WriteLine("Subject: {0}" & vbCr & vbLf, oMail.Subject)

' Generate an email file name based on date time.
Dim d As System.DateTime = System.DateTime.Now
Dim cur As New System.Globalization.CultureInfo("en-US")
Dim sdate As String = d.ToString("yyyyMMddHHmmss", cur)
Dim fileName As String = [String].Format("{0}\{1}{2}{3}.eml", _
mailbox, sdate, d.Millisecond.ToString("d3"), i)

' Save email to local disk
oMail.SaveAs(fileName, True)

' Mark email as deleted in Gmail Account
oClient.Delete(info)
Next

' Quit and pure emails marked as deleted from Gmail IMAP4 server.
oClient.Quit()
Catch ep As Exception
Console.WriteLine(ep.Message)
End Try

End Sub
End Module
Ian
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3rd Sep 12 at 22:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Whittie
How many times have people used it?
600 unique IPs since December 11. So 2 per day on average.

Probably less if you discount people just doing it to see if it works. Certainly ROI in less than a year if I charged him £250 and it was as busy.

[Edited on 03-09-2012 by Ian]
Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris
You could create a mailbox reader app, then parse the emails that enter then repond with answer.

Telnet mail.server.com:25
HELO


Prefer it to sit on some hosting somewhere and just work, don't really fancy keeping a Windows box alive.
Chris
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3rd Sep 12 at 22:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have a look at Hyper V hosting.

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