Gaz
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some of the stats of emergency drivers not driving to the emergency as fast as they can through being scared of something going wrong and being prosecuted for it is scary!
WTF do society want? To be helped in an emergency as quickly as possible (lets face it thats why you should ring 999) Or have emergency services held up not because of traffic but because your local ex-60mph duel carriageway is now a 30mph.
When I watch programs like this it makes my piss boil, as its the same people who want to emergency services fucked over if something goes wrong, who then want/need and emergency service and complain about it to the death.
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Gaz
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sorry, this is in relation to the ITV program thats just been on if people are wondering where this has come from.
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Russ
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you need to stop being so naive if you think thats true
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Gaz
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there have been cases in courts of this nature, so yes, it's true.
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andy_mk3
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Not long ago I followed an Ambulance with it's lights flashing doing 65mph on the A47, dry evening, light traffic. I thought I hope it's not too serious!
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
there have been cases in courts of this nature, so yes, it's true.
no, just no gaz.
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JonnyJ
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quote:
Originally posted by andy_mk3
Not long ago I followed an Ambulance with it's lights flashing doing 65mph on the A47, dry evening, light traffic. I thought I hope it's not too serious!
 reminds me of the time one went past me on the M62 on the way back from Hull in traffic. Eventually it cleared and i was on my way doing a steady 80, next thing im catching it back up and hes stuck it permanently in the outside lane, so i undertook him. Thought it cant be that serious
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mattant
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Ironically, plenty of people get run over and killed by emergency vehicles
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by andy_mk3
Not long ago I followed an Ambulance with it's lights flashing doing 65mph on the A47, dry evening, light traffic. I thought I hope it's not too serious!
The way ambulances an paramedics respond to incidents has evolved quite a bit. Paramedics are trained to do more treatment in transit and often a medic can respond to an incident too. It's more than getting the patient to the hospital ASAP now.
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JaffaTB
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my brother was almost knocked over by an ambulance once, It would have been the fastest response ever
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John
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I've seen some shocking driving from emergency vehicles, normally police.
Normal cops shouldn't be allowed to speed unless they've had some proper training.
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ed
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Police Volvo nearly pulled out on me at a roundabout tonight - would have been a pretty good crash if he hadnt have stopped!
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Welsh Dan
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As Ed said, ambulances aren't all about speed. Sometimes they'll have a vulnerable patient who needs to be transported slowly. We've had a few runs at 35mph, sometimes slower.
With regards to Police training, although the law says that Police don't need training to use the exemptions, in this day and age with lawsuits and whatnot, most, if not all forces will require officers to have a driving course before they let them use them.
They need to add a bit to the driving test about what to do when you see an emergency vehicle. The amount of clowns that just slam on the brakes, instead of just moving over to the clear lane is unreal. Or idiots that just sit there and don't move, or look in their mirrors.
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Mike
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I was completely baffled by the guy that wanted to completely ban police pursuits. If that happened, we'd get even more people driving around without the proper documents, all you'd need to do is register your car to a false name and address then whenever the police try to pull you, gun it and they're stumped because they can't chase you and they can't follow it up later because they don't know who's car it is. What a bright idea that would be 
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Jamie-C
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I had a near miss with a police jeep before, was about 1am I was out in the car and was driving over a crossroads and out of nowhere this police jeep flys straight over the crossroads in front off me only just missing me. Didn't have sirens on so I wasn't aware it was there. At the time I actually thought it was stolen as it was pure stupidity what they done. I think they just put any tom dick and harry in them as there has been a fare share off jeeps rolled here
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Butler
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I like to outrun ambulances and pretend they are police
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stan_the_man
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A local lad overtook an ambulance with the blues on and got banned
[Edited on 02-11-2012 by stan_the_man]
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sc0ott
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Are the police allowed to speed when they dont have their flashing lights on?
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gtitim
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Originally posted by sc0ott
Are the police allowed to speed when they dont have their flashing lights on?
Yes
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I've seen some shocking driving from emergency vehicles, normally police.
Normal cops shouldn't be allowed to speed unless they've had some proper training.
why? you do it? we all do it? and other than pow, we are not trained
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Russ
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Originally posted by Butler
I like to outrun ambulances and pretend they are police
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gtitim
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The biggest problem is the CPS will actively seek to prosecute cops. A colleague had a pursuit in a Traffic car. Lost the pursuing vehicle. Several miles down the road, not being followed, the suspect vehicle crashed and one passenger was seriously hurt.
Police in the area investigated. My colleague was asked to attend the investigating station to have a statement taken, and promptly arrested for dangerous driving since he was pursuing. Even though he was nowhere near the suspect vehicle when it crashed. Took 18 months before it was resolved.
As for speeding - I brake for speed cameras - far simpler to touch the brakes and drop to ,say 40 in a 30, then back up to 50, than risk being prosecuted for 50+ even though my guidelines are +20mph on blue light jobs.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Russ
quote:
Originally posted by John
I've seen some shocking driving from emergency vehicles, normally police.
Normal cops shouldn't be allowed to speed unless they've had some proper training.
why? you do it? we all do it? and other than pow, we are not trained
I'm trained the same as Pow, I know the limits of my driving though.
Some standard cop in an astra with lights doesn't from what I've seen.
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andy_mk3
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
quote:
Originally posted by andy_mk3
Not long ago I followed an Ambulance with it's lights flashing doing 65mph on the A47, dry evening, light traffic. I thought I hope it's not too serious!
The way ambulances an paramedics respond to incidents has evolved quite a bit. Paramedics are trained to do more treatment in transit and often a medic can respond to an incident too. It's more than getting the patient to the hospital ASAP now.
I thought that but it joined the road from the junction that goes towards the hospital and was heading away from the city!
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gazza808
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I've seen some shocking driving from emergency vehicles, normally police.
Normal cops shouldn't be allowed to speed unless they've had some proper training.
They actually aren't allowed to with out having the training first.
Sure my mate had to do a few driving courses/tests before he was allowed to use the blues.
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