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Robin
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7th Dec 12 at 11:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do they always err on the side of caution and make every little thing sound like it'll kill you?
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Yes, litigation rules
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Remember they are surverying to current code i.e. if the house was built now. This means there may well be many things that are highlighted as not being to standard when in fact they are to the standard when the house was built, its just the standard has chanced since.
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Not sure if it's RICS, although I think it's just the same.

In Scotland there has to be a home report to sell the house.

It's about 40 pages of 'I couldn't get access to this, for that reason it may be about to make the house fall down'.

Get somebody who knows what they're looking at to give it a quick read over. My dad managed to tell me straight away what was standard for that type of house and that it was all ok.
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Basically, we had outs back an it says 'boiler is old and may fail and the world will end' 'electrics are old and may overheat and set fire to your face' and the house will give you asbestosis, maybe, possibly'
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So obv the wife is freaking!
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That's exactly the sort of drivel you normally get in them. Still better to get someone to have a browse over it if you can.
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7th Dec 12 at 16:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The only thing of any concern is the asbestos, boiler I can cope with, same as a bit of wiring but having someone gut the inside of the house, I'm not so sure
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What's it saying the asbestos is in?
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All the ceilings (70s artex) the kitchen walls (again, textured artex-y stuff) and potentially the original floor tiles of they're still there.
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I wouldn't worry about that at all, get the walls and ceilings plastered and don't suck dust in with a straw when you're hanging anything up on the walls.
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To be fair, whilst most stuff we put in reports are disclaimers, personally I would still be extra careful around potentially asbestos containing materials.

Not disturbed they are fine, but presumably ugly and you will want them removed in which case it will take longer and you will need to be more careful than otherwise. No need for a specialist but hardly a "don't worry about it at all" situation either.
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We are replacing the kitchen though, so there's no way to not disturb the walls when removing cupboards etc
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In which case you should allow more time to do the job
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asbestos in artex and plaster is low risk anyway, I wouldnt be arsed over it to be honest. the rewire is the scary bit in all that.

the first house I bought had sloping floors upstairs so I paid nearly £800 for a structual survey to see if it was ok and it basicaly said, the floors upstairs have deflected, this could be cause by weak floor joists, however to properly inspect would involve lifting floor boards so we can not comment further. fucking useless
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9th Dec 12 at 12:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Elecs and Gas are standard responses as RICs surveyors don't have the qualifications to inspect or comment on them.


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And the asbestos is in most artex in buildings built up until the 90s anyway. Just bear it in mind if you drill artexed walls and ceilings etc in the future.


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Had a test done anyway as it was cheap (know someone who does them) and its been found in every room lol.

Quoted £5500+ vat to remove and waiting on quotes to put everything they remove back!

Before anyone says just leave it, my grandad died from asbestosis, I'm not risking it!
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Is it just the artex on the ceiling that has asbestos?

If so then just knock the high spots off and get it plastered. Will be a fraction of the quote you've had.

I'm pretty sure your grand-dad will have been exposed to totally different levels of asbestos
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17th Dec 12 at 19:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Kitchen walls, floors in kitchen, living room an hallway and every ceiling bar the one in the extension on the back of the house.
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Just plaster over it.

And if you are THAT worried about what's in your ceilings walls floors I've got a 100 or so 'old' type two surveys at work which I can reference for asbestos contained in those areas.
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You'll have a harder job finding something that doesn't have it everywhere.


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quote:
Originally posted by VegasPhil
You'll have a harder job finding something that doesn't have it everywhere.


Exactly that.

And it'll be trace anyway no doubt.

£5.5k
Daniel_Corsa
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17th Dec 12 at 23:14   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£5.5k to remove! Plaster over it, will be fuck all in artex anyways. Scraped all mine off and plastered over it!

Oh hope I don't get asbestosis.


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I'm more than aware that it'll be a trace amount in the artex but when we come to sell and someone does a survey and wants to haggle, we lose the money... Better to sort it now!

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