boylers11
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I have my eye on a car, but I have a potential issue.
Basically, the car was built by someone, who obviously
bought a V5 off someone scrapping a 'similar' vehicle, therefore
it's currently registered under an incorrect make/model,
presumably to avoid an SVA test.
The car has since been bought by the lad who is selling it,
who has put a different engine in to be used as a track car.
I'm interested in the car, but would want it registered with the
correct engine AND as the correct make/ model.
Presumably, if I wanted to get it in the road, I'd need an SVA
check and inform the DVLA of the incorrect make/model?
Is this issue resolved fairly easily, or would it be opening a can of worms?
Thanks in advance!
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daymoon
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What car is it? I am guessing can of worms.
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Generation
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Can if worms IMO. Either buy as is and leave it. Or don't buy IMO
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Ian
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Depends on a few things.
Presenting the car for a test is easy - just apply for one and turn up.
You may need evidence that the car is what you say it is. If the chassis number can be changed easily then you wouldn't really need to tell them its been registered before. But you will need evidence of where your donor parts have come from.
There might also be a reason why its been given the blag ID - either that its just not been presented because it was cheaper and less hassle to ring it - or there's a really great reason why it won't pass a test.
Might be that there's some reason it can't have a legitimate pass.
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boylers11
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quote:
Originally posted by daymoon
What car is it? I am guessing can of worms.
It's a kit car
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boylers11
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It's relatively common practice with kit cars I think, people buy Dutton V5s to save the hassle of SVA. Obviously, keeping it registered as a Dutton when it isn't would void insurance etc and could potentially leave me majorly out of pocket?
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Ian
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Do you know what it is?
The very fact it involves a Dutton would put me off, doubt very much you'd get an older kit of theirs through a modern IVA.
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boylers11
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It's a newer vehicle than a Dutton Ian (I've u2ud you).
If I ring the lad up, should I be asking about chassis numbers etc I take it?
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Ben J
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Sounds dodgy as fuck.
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Ian
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Ask as many probing questions as you can and make him feel as uncomfortable as possible, then ask him when he wants his 2495.
I would think its either been given the Dutton VIN, or it doesn't carry one. The latter being better for you as you just need to stamp one in and go test it. Whether it'll pass or not is anyone's guess, and I do think the parts bin spec list will cause you problems unless you can document the source and age of all the major components.
May be that it'll go on a Q plate, not sure. Did notice a lot of those kits go brand new reg plates, presumably once you've convinced VOSA that you've used new parts, which will be as difficult as your tester is dubious of the paperwork.
Main question is why wasn't it tested normally, hassle isn't a good answer because if its built properly its no hassle. I'd be digging to see if it'll actually pass.
[Edited on 03-08-2013 by Ian]
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boylers11
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Great, thanks a lot for that! I'll give him a buzz when he's given me his number and report back!
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boylers11
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Right, spoke to the chap who seems very helpful.
The lad that built it had te chassis stamped to match the v5 of the Dutton, hence it went on a Q plate.
The present owner has put a different engine in and got rid of the chassis plate, so presumably it has no link to the dutton v5.
The only recent paperwork present is that of the new engine.
He reckons that if I completed the car and applied for an SVA test, I wouldn't need any other paper work, it would be stamped and issue a brand new v5, which would get rid of the need for the incorrect v5 and current Q reg.
Does this sound about right?
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Ian
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IVA is the test. SVA went out a few years ago.
You'll need evidence that your major components are new to get a new reg.
Chassis number is your choice and you stamp it.
That would give it a new reg, yes.
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boylers11
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How to you get a new chassis no? If I did the above method, would it all be legit?
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Ian
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No, because the car isn't new. It should be assigned a plate based on the age of the major components. If that can't be established it should go on a Q.
To get a new reg, you need to blag that its a new car. Which isn't actually all the difficult if you can make receipts for new or recon components, but its not what you might call legit.
New chassis number is the easiest bit, just get a set of these -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLARKE-METALWORK-PUNCHES-LETTER-FIGURE-PUNCHES-4mm-/200394786802?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ea875c7f2
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boylers11
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Great, thanks for all the info Ian. I'll do a bit more investigation, but by the sounds of it, it's going to be more hassle than its worth trying to get it legitimate.
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