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BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 18:35

Is there any possible way to do this or would the police be the only ones who have the power to do it?

Matt L

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28th Oct 13 at 18:37

only police I imagine, every man and their dog would be searching for people who cut them up

Welsh Dan

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28th Oct 13 at 18:40

The DVLA will, if you give them a fiver and a good enough excuse.

I did it for my own vehicle, to which they gave me the name of every single previous owner (which was handy for finding out more about the car) and a copy of every single V5, and the initial documents used to register the car when new (i.e. the receipt from the main dealer)

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 18:41

There is/was a member on here who was a police officer wasn't there?

Robin

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28th Oct 13 at 18:41

You can request the data from the DVLA for a fee but have to have reasonable grounds (like those cowboy 'parking enforcement' companies seem to). Most of the time the DVLA will not release the data.

'I want to know who owns this car as I use to own it' is not a valid reason, for example.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 18:42

quote:
Originally posted by Welsh Dan
The DVLA will, if you give them a fiver and a good enough excuse.

Hmmm, interesting...

I guess if I claimed to own the car and I wanted to research the previous owners then they'd probably want to see proof of ownership...

[Edited on 28-10-2013 by BluKoo]

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 18:49

The real reason for wanting the details of the owner is that I have found a car which a dealer is selling on behalf of someone.
I want to cut out the middle man and save a few grand.

Would that be a good enough reason? After all, it's nothing sinister...

Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 18:56

But after the dealer has sold it, the actual owner will still be getting the same cut surely as what he would if he was to sell it off his own back.

Ben G

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28th Oct 13 at 19:05

I requested the details of the owner of a car which drove into me and then drove off.

They were fine with that excuse.

Kyle T

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28th Oct 13 at 19:07

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
But after the dealer has sold it, the actual owner will still be getting the same cut surely as what he would if he was to sell it off his own back.

Split the difference?

Dealer selling for £12 for example and gives the owner £10. Blukoo can offer £11 to the owner directly, which gets the owner more, and saves him a £1?

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Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 19:12

Yes but he want's to save a few grand.

Im thinking its something expensive, and the dealer is probably only making that few grand from the sale.

And if it is something expensive, then the actual owner probably dosn't wan't the hassle of selling it himself, and would rather pay the chump change to not have the hassle.

Kyle T

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28th Oct 13 at 19:14

Yeah I get the hassle thing, particularly if it's something high-end and hence a rich-ass previous owner, but if a seller comes knocking offering MORE money than the dealer... I can't see anyone turning it down.

Rich people don't get rich by not taking every opportunity to make some cash

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Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 19:16

It really just comes down to how much mark up the dealer is asking.

If its more than the few grand he want's to save, i would be very surprised.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:02

Think it might be irrelevant now.

Decided that it might be worth while buying if from the dealer for the standard consumer rights and any warranty which might be supplied.

Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 20:07

Will any of that be available though?? Surely if he is only selling it for the owner, the standard consumer rights won't come in to play.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:14

Payment will be made to the garage so yes it will.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:16

Every used car which RPM sells goes through the same procedure in order to make it to the showroom floor. Our cars are sourced by Darren Anderson through our established main dealer and trade connections or from our ever growing database of customer cars which we service and maintain. Vehicles are then HPI checked to ensure there is no finance outstanding, accident damage repair markers or stolen/recovered markers. The car is sent into the workshop for the 110 point inspection and road test, which gives us a thorough understanding of the health of the car. This same procedure applies to both ‘Sale or Return’ cars and vehicles purchased to retail to ensure all cars associated with RPM are prepared to the highest level and there is consistency between all cars presented for sale.

Cars are supplied with an HPI data check, MOT (we put on a fresh MOT if the current one expires in less than 6 months), geometry check and adjustment and all available service history documentation. You are also given a technical overview of the vehicles 110 point inspection report and if you wish we can put the vehicle onto one of our service ramps for a technician to walk you around the vehicle.

We prefer to be completely open and transparent with all our cars. Our reputation as a servicing specialist is of paramount importance to us so you will always get a truthful ‘warts and all’ appraisal. We would also like our sales customers to be so happy with the service they received that they subsequently choose to maintain their vehicles with us.

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Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 20:22

So do they own the car then?? What make's you think they are selling it for someone??

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:26

No, they don't own the car.

They sourced it for me. It still lives at the current owners house. That's where the dealer went to take pictures of it.

Welsh Dan

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28th Oct 13 at 20:31

quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
There is/was a member on here who was a police officer wasn't there?

One or two

As I said, I personally used the DVLA to get the keeper information, although that was on the car that I own. Took a month or so mind, so probably not helpful.

The parking companies use a different method to get the data (usually through Ranger Services), which is a lot quicker. No bizzie that wants to keep his job is going to give you the information.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:36

Yeah, it was probably a silly idea in the first place.

John

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28th Oct 13 at 20:55

You've seen it because the dealer is advertising it.

I'd be massively surprised if you could miss them out and it not cost the seller anything.

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 20:55

quote:
Originally posted by John
You've seen it because the dealer is advertising it.

I'd be massively surprised if you could miss them out and it not cost the seller anything.

The dealer isn't advertising it.

Corsa_Sport21

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28th Oct 13 at 20:58

Is it actually for sale though?? Or has the dealer found 1, and going to try get the owner to sell it??

BluKoo

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28th Oct 13 at 21:05

It is for sale. Been given a price, all the spec, and the dealer even went round to take some pictures of it for me.

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