Ian
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Any alternatives to these?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BERGEN-17-Piece-Tool-1-2-Dr-Shallow-Sockets-6-Point-Hex-Tool-Set-10-32mm-/261144103104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3ccd66c8c0
Want some 6 points on the short. Got long 6 and short 12 point, and I never use the 12 point, just don't find them as grippy.
18 quid the set looks OK but never used that brand.
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Ian
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Missing the bigger stuff but better?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITOOL-HALLMARK-1-2-Drive-6-Point-Hexagon-SOCKET-SET-10-19mm-LHMSET10-/151058626564?pt=UK_Baby_BabyFeedingUtensils_EH&hash=item232bcbb804
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by Ian
Any alternatives to these?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BERGEN-17-Piece-Tool-1-2-Dr-Shallow-Sockets-6-Point-Hex-Tool-Set-10-32mm-/261144103104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3ccd66c8c0
Want some 6 points on the short. Got long 6 and short 12 point, and I never use the 12 point, just don't find them as grippy.
18 quid the set looks OK but never used that brand.
Got some Bergen bits and bobs Ian. Not too bad stuff for so cheap. Been using one of their mini palm air buzz guns for ages and it still works great.
Can't go wrong for that money on those sockets btw.
12 point I only tend to buy as and when, for any specific repeat jobs that are fitted with bolts that require them. They will invariably tend to slip on a normal hex bolt head though.
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Graeme
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Bergen stuff is fine. In half inch I always use 6 point.
[Edited on 28-01-2014 by Graeme]
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SVM 286
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The Britool set may well be better, but for that money, unless you're beating the bejesus out of em daily, then you can't go wrong with the cheap set, especially as you get the extra sizes.
Are you likely to use air tools on them?
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Ian
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No all for hand stuff.
Might get an impact set at some point but I don't really bother with dragging the air line around the workshop, rather get a big bar on and take it easy.
I'll get impact sockets when I've a nice light electric impact driver.
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SVM 286
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The Bergens should be cool then Ian
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ShEp
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Bergen is decent.
If not mostly all too manufacturers will do that set, teng is decent and has the warranty.
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Ste
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Missing the bigger stuff but better?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITOOL-HALLMARK-1-2-Drive-6-Point-Hexagon-SOCKET-SET-10-19mm-LHMSET10-/151058626564?pt=UK_Baby_BabyFeedingUtensils_EH&hash=item232bcbb804
Baby_BabyFeedingUtensils 
riiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhtttt
[Edited on 28-01-2014 by Ste]
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Ian
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Noticed that, I've no idea either
Bought the Bergen set.
Also
Filter remover -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180747964329?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
O2 socket -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261347454600?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Still can't find hammers for sensible money, or indeed G clamps.
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Ste
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel-hickory-handle-ball-pein-hammer-16oz/36150
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Ste
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http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/ball-pein-hammers/cat831072
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Ste
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http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/club-lump-hammers/cat1470012
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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SVM 286
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Also
Filter remover -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180747964329?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
O2 socket -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261347454600?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
In my experience Ian, those chain removers are hopeless compared to a strap or a cup, or a large pair of swan necks.
Also, re the Lambda probe socket, there's loads of stuff you won't be able to get it on because of the height.
Sealey (I think), do a set of different shapes and sizes and only about two of them will fit most probes (usually the very shallow and open and/or crow's foot variant).
The last place I worked at, I was always either taking probes out with the appropriate sized spanner, or borrowing my pal's set that I mentioned above.
My very deep and very expensive Facom version that looks very much like the one you posted (only chrome), never got a look in. And still looks like new :-(
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Ian
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Used a chain one before and I found it OK. I didn't go for a strap because I thought it would get mucky and horrible. Chain at least you can wipe down and it'll stay lubricated but not dirty as such.
Lambda socket is really only for Ford ones in top of the manifold so that will suit.
Saw the sets but they were a lot more expensive and I've limited use for the stuff other than at 22mm.
Did confuse me slightly they were all 3/8th drive but I'll see how it feels, should still do the job.
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SVM 286
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Cool. As long as you can get access with what you're getting
I only mentioned the chain ones being an issue as they tend to tear the filter and make a horrid mess, or they slip, or deform/break in my experience.
My strap one just gets sprayed with brake cleaner and left out to dry if it gets oily
You can get a couple of different styles/designs of metal strap one. They are excellent if you have the right sort of access.
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SVM 286
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Btw, re hammers, Thor do some good ones, as do Blue Point and they aren't horribly dear either.
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Ian
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Strap filter removers are cheaper too 
Probably try Screwfix for the hammers.
Still leaves G clamps.
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Got a lovely yellow and black G clamp for my Dad from Robert Dyas if I remember correctly Ian.
Dunno if it's cast or forged but it's a Stanley one, it's really nicely made and it was very reasonably priced.
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Ian
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Next potential purpose, don't normally go for gimmicks but that could be useful?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAPER-44004-EXPERT-EXTENSION-BAR-WITH-LED-1-2-Sq-Dr-/310154268640?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4836a28fe0
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pow
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What a bloody good idea. I could think of a couple of places that it could be very useful!
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Kyle T
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I have a tool tuesday (late) question.
For high torque applications, is it better to use a 6point or 12point wrench/socket?
I always thought 6, as my impact sockets are 6 - but I read the other day to use a 12.
Lotus Elise 111R
Impreza WRX STi
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Ian
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There are not many times I'd use 12 except for where space is limited and you need to start it somewhere other than one of the 6 choices.
High torque for me says more likely to slip - which says 6. Can't think why you'd want to reduce the amount of area that you are using.
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Kyle T
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Can't think why you'd want to reduce the amount of area that you are using.
That was my thoughts too, more contact patch = less chance of slipping.
Can't remember where I read to use 12 now, it was in a guide somewhere - guess it was either a typo or ill informed, unless someone can explain otherwise.
Lotus Elise 111R
Impreza WRX STi
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Ian
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Only reason I can think is that you might do yourself less injury if you've more control where it starts. But by the time you've unplugged the 6 side and moved it round on the square on the handle, you've quite a few choices anyway.
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