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1986
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10th Apr 14 at 14:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone had this fitted ? thinking about getting it done and just wondered if anyone had a view on it ?
whitter45
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I prefer this from the company I work for

the ad has just been approved for release

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbEuPVtVNc

In all honesty its pretty expensive and the novelty wears off

[Edited on 10-04-2014 by whitter45]
John
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10th Apr 14 at 16:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nest has just been released in the UK.
Rob_Quads
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I've been looking into these for quite a bit.

At the moment ended up going the DIY route, so far have my PI with wireless temp sensors in all the rooms. Nearlly ready to hook up to the central heating too.

Nest is quite cool although heard very mixed reviews due to the way it interacts with the water heating system and as a result a lot of the efficiency is lost

Honeywell also do a system. Theirs looks to be the best with per room dynamic trvs and you can control each room to be what you want.

John
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10th Apr 14 at 17:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I will diy most things but when you buy a normal heating controller, it'll probably work. Can imagine you'll be logging onto the pi all the time to fix stuff.

Other thing that's put me off doing it is that there's no point. I've generally got the radiators all on high anyway.
Ben G
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10th Apr 14 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hive is free with British gas at the moment if you fixed your tariff iirc.

Nest looks nicer.

The neostat by heatmiser is lovely too.
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10th Apr 14 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Agree in what you say about the Pi, its whats stopped me completing it so far - the Wife factor lol.

Watch out on British Gas' fixed tarrif. A few of the others have already said they won't put up their prices now the government have removed some of the green taxes so you will end up paying a lot more than the cost of the Hive by fixing with british gas

Really like http://evohome.honeywell.com but its a good £600+ to do a house properly

also like the HeadMiser, specially the way you can link in a separate electric floor into the system.

[Edited on 10-04-2014 by Rob_Quads]
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I will diy most things but when you buy a normal heating controller, it'll probably work. Can imagine you'll be logging onto the pi all the time to fix stuff.

Other thing that's put me off doing it is that there's no point. I've generally got the radiators all on high anyway.


same here. If it put the heating on, it's because i'm cold and want to be warm as soon as possible. When i'm sufficiently warm, I turn the heating off.
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10th Apr 14 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Heatmiser seems to be good, but not as good as your more mature brands.
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11th Apr 14 at 06:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Good bit of kit, handy in the winter when you want to leave work and arrive at a warm home.
If you can get it for free via a tariff fix well worth having and if not £199 isn't too bad.
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11th Apr 14 at 07:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have it handy for me as my shifts never finsh at the same time in the evenings but took me a few times to remember to turn it on and would go home to a cold house
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11th Apr 14 at 08:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by John
I will diy most things but when you buy a normal heating controller, it'll probably work. Can imagine you'll be logging onto the pi all the time to fix stuff.



I'm with John on this (maybe i'm getting old). I don't see the point in a gadget controlling the heating in my house. We just use a switch to turn it on and off as and when it's cold.
Ben G
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11th Apr 14 at 09:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You can't swtich it on from the thermostat if you're out though. All well and good if your shift pattern is constant.

Not so good if you work 3 shift.
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Modern houses will warm up in 15 - 20 minutes. I can live with that!

I don't warm my car up in the mornings before my 1 hour commute, same principle in the house.

I see it as a gadget and something else to go wrong

Saying all this, i'll probably want a hive solution next year
1986
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Modern houses will warm up in 15 - 20 minutes. I can live with that!

I don't warm my car up in the mornings before my 1 hour commute, same principle in the house.

I see it as a gadget and something else to go wrong

Saying all this, i'll probably want a hive solution next year


I did think a few of these points but having a baby over xmas one of these would have been very handy I just think for the little they cost its probably not a bad investment
Ben G
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If i could remotely activate my car to get the heating on then I would.

As long as it didn't use fuel, of course.
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11th Apr 14 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Induction charging from driveway to car with an electric in-car heater - Job done.

Current tech might need a bit of development to get there though
John
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11th Apr 14 at 17:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Loads of cars come with an electric/diesel fired auxiliary heater, just not normally in the UK because it doesn't get cold enough.
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Seems a bit pointless to me really...as Andrew says unless you've got a proper old and draughty house it only really takes 15 / 20 minutes until you feel the heating kicking in?

I know in my new build once the heating has been on for 5 with it's plasterboard walls the room starts getting toasty almost immediately
Dom
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13th Apr 14 at 19:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
At the moment ended up going the DIY route....


Have you got a blog or a write-up about your project? Be interested in seeing what you're doing and how your achieving it (particularly the individual room temperature modules)
Rob_Quads
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http://www.convery.me.uk/blog/xrf-temperature-sensor-xrf-slice-of-pi/

XRF modules are the key to mine. Fairly cheap and have worked flawlessly for a year now
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
http://www.convery.me.uk/blog/xrf-temperature-sensor-xrf-slice-of-pi/

XRF modules are the key to mine. Fairly cheap and have worked flawlessly for a year now


Does your project control individual zones/rooms (if so what valves are you using on the radiators?) or are you simply averaging the temperature results across all zones/rooms and switching on the boiler when required?

Certainly an interesting project though
Rob_Quads
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Its not doing anything at the moment lol. Twins have got in the way of the plans.

Ideally I'm looking at getting some TRVs that are XigBee enabled but they are not cheap and then is it worth going the custom root with such expense...
John
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10th May 14 at 13:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got a NEST.

It's summer and I've only wired it up today so can't really give a review on functionality.

I can review the quality though, very Apple, which is to be expected. Quality feels really good, packaging is nice, even the screws you get with it are nice.

It only controls heating, not hot water so was a bit of a pain working out how to keep my current programmer while using the NEST as thermostat only. Wiring for the nest itself is pretty simple though, just power and a relay.

Impressed so far.
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10th May 14 at 14:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
I prefer this from the company I work for

the ad has just been approved for release

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbEuPVtVNc

In all honesty its pretty expensive and the novelty wears off

[Edited on 10-04-2014 by whitter45]
is that fucking ben from eastenders

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