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3CorsaMeal
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Need to learn welding, not sure how much to pay for a welder, only need to do a few bits of bodywork.

Seen this which looks a good price? But tbh i don't know what i'm looking for.

http://www.bodyshop-tools-supplies.co.uk/product_view.php?id=20030

does the amp rating matter? As its another £10 for the 140amp and same again for a 150amp
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Looks alright that. You won't need big amps for body work.

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That looks shit - spend a bit more - think mines a 180 - much better
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He might want to weld heavier later on - although id just let the bodyshop weld it
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that'll do you just fine,
more than enough for car body work,
adjustment is the key, working on body work id run 0.6mm wire, though 0.8mm does feed better through the budget liners in the leads and guns.

also get yours self a rentless full size bottle of gas not them dire throw away ones.

i've got a 200amp one for in the garage and its a pain in the arse and fucking heavy.
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They all go down as low as each other - usually 30
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John d welding expert after half building an imp
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No im just not a spastic - they can all weld thin shit - if he spends a little more now he will have more option in future


I have a 10mm nut to remove - should i buy a 10mm spanner or a set?
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I can't see me doing any thicker stuff at the moment, i would almost buy a welder, weld my shit together and then sell the welder on.
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Wht not just have a pro do it then
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Because car is stuck in garage now with not much attached to it. So hard to move. I guess i could get someone round but I'd rather do things myself.
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Id just worry about how much youve spent/spending to ruin it with snail trail welds
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Bodywork buckles easy when welding if you don't know what your doing
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quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
No im just not a spastic - they can all weld thin shit - if he spends a little more now he will have more option in future


I have a 10mm nut to remove - should i buy a 10mm spanner or a set?


Spanner tbh
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But what about next week when i need to remove a 12mm
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Use the set I already have
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I stated off with a £250 150 amp sealey mig on co2 was ok to learn and ok while new. Now upgraded to a180amp sealey with a euro torch much smoother wire feed then switched to 95% Argon amazing the diffence that made so much better
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
No im just not a spastic - they can all weld thin shit - if he spends a little more now he will have more option in future


I have a 10mm nut to remove - should i buy a 10mm spanner or a set?


Spanner tbh


I bought 3 sets of spanners
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22
I stated off with a £250 150 amp sealey mig on co2 was ok to learn and ok while new. Now upgraded to a180amp sealey with a euro torch much smoother wire feed then switched to 95% Argon amazing the diffence that made so much better


Proper argon mix makes a he'll of a difference doesn't it?
You can buy a Teflon liner for the cheaper non euro torcheck welders, makes them abit better,

Alot of people are converting their smaller welders to euro style torch it's pretty easy and kits are cheap now.
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That little thing is a waste of time.. Look at second hand bigger units.
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Its only for bodywork. Non structural bits. I don't doing loads of blobs of weld and grinding them all back.
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I've got a Clarke 100e (could be 100en) fantastic little welder bought it for £65 from a nice lad that had used it on his escort.
I've not done any real work with it just a little bit of practice but it's been great.
A lad I do some work for now and again is a fabricator/welder for a living and borrowed it from even he said it was worth the money they are new all day (£230).

I would buy anything new though go second hand and save some money good machines last forever
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Thats what i'm bidding on at the moment, a used 100e, just been outbid at £102, so i might give up
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
Its only for bodywork. Non structural bits. I don't doing loads of blobs of weld and grinding them all back.


More reason to buy a better model with proper adjustable power output rather than just 'MAX/MIN'... You'll be forever blowing holes in panels or just creating little lumps of pigeon poop..

Try looking at some more obscure brands like Kemppi or Einhell (They used to knock out some amazing machines but you'll need to go second hand, look for the red coloured ones).


Also loads of idiots can't spell WELDER so look out for spellings like: WEILDER.

[Edited on 13-02-2015 by DaveyLC]
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Nice tips

I got a while before i really need it so will look around. I don't mind getting something decent and then selling it on again.

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