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27th Apr 15 at 13:28

This was news to me so I thought I'd share it on here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32481382

Your paper counterpart driving license wont be needed anymore after 8th June. You'll need to obtain a code from the DVLA website if you're planning on hiring a car abroad after then as endorsements are stored electronically only. The code lasts for 72hrs, after then you'll need to get a new one (you can also get on by phone).

Ben G

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27th Apr 15 at 14:06

About time. I don't even know where mine is.

Kyle T

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27th Apr 15 at 14:08

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
About time. I don't even know where mine is.

Does my head in having to look after it just for the purpose of car rentals, though it's only been UK rentals in the past few years in which I've been asked for it.

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Tiger

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27th Apr 15 at 15:12

If you go abroad and rent a vehicle, you need a 72hr code to allow you to rent that replaces what used to be paper counter part.

baza31

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27th Apr 15 at 17:56

When does it come into play? My license needs renewing

Tiger

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27th Apr 15 at 18:37

June 8th I think.

pow

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28th Apr 15 at 08:20

Excellent, won't have to find my counterpart for my menorca hire car in August

DaveyLC

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28th Apr 15 at 08:52

I'll bet insurance companies will start asking for this Code too.. It will stop people from hiding the fact they have points on their license.

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28th Apr 15 at 08:59

That's probably one of the reasons for doing this - there must be a lot of fraud going on at the moment because it's quite easy to leave endorsements and convictions undisclosed.

Ben G

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28th Apr 15 at 10:36

I hope speed awareness courses aren't registered on the database!

taylorboosh

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28th Apr 15 at 11:31

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
I'll bet insurance companies will start asking for this Code too.. It will stop people from hiding the fact they have points on their license.

Fantastic idea

random dav

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28th Apr 15 at 12:16

Surely it would be easier just to put the driving license number into the DVLA website for a points history check. Thats what happens here.

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28th Apr 15 at 12:22

Using some kind of expiring code/hash/number is more secure than using the number on the license. You need a few bits of information to login and get the code (NI number, license number and some address details), so it stops people from being able to get at your details with just one piece of information.

[Edited on 28-04-2015 by ed]

pow

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28th Apr 15 at 12:47

quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
I'll bet insurance companies will start asking for this Code too.. It will stop people from hiding the fact they have points on their license.

Fantastic idea

whs

DaveyLC

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28th Apr 15 at 12:54

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Using some kind of expiring code/hash/number is more secure than using the number on the license. You need a few bits of information to login and get the code (NI number, license number and some address details), so it stops people from being able to get at your details with just one piece of information.

[Edited on 28-04-2015 by ed]

It also means the query doesn't have to be against the ENTIRE DVLA license database, just against a much smaller dataset that can be purged every 72 hours.

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28th Apr 15 at 20:15

72hr expiry is a bit shite though. Say you don't hire a car 5 days into your holiday or something. Need to find WiFi, remember to take your NI number with you etc etc.

Other than that, great idea. I have to hire cars at work for business mileage and it is a right pain in the arse having to dig out my paper licence. That and I can't hire one at last minute.

Dad still has his OLD paper licence and no photo counterpart

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28th Apr 15 at 21:59

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
I hope speed awareness courses aren't registered on the database!

Work have finally sourced me a small van to use for work. My boss decided not to tell the insurance company i'd done this course twice

I need to look into where i stand with this.

[Edited on 28-04-2015 by Andrew]

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29th Apr 15 at 09:19

quote:
Originally posted by deano87
72hr expiry is a bit shite though. Say you don't hire a car 5 days into your holiday or something. Need to find WiFi, remember to take your NI number with you etc etc.

Other than that, great idea. I have to hire cars at work for business mileage and it is a right pain in the arse having to dig out my paper licence. That and I can't hire one at last minute.

Dad still has his OLD paper licence and no photo counterpart

It does say in the article (and I did mention) that you can phone up for the code for that exact scenario

random dav

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29th Apr 15 at 13:16

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Using some kind of expiring code/hash/number is more secure than using the number on the license. You need a few bits of information to login and get the code (NI number, license number and some address details), so it stops people from being able to get at your details with just one piece of information.

[Edited on 28-04-2015 by ed]

Cant see how that matters tbh. What is someone going to do with it? I dont even know the missus dl number, nevermind anyone elses

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29th Apr 15 at 13:18

It's standard issue computer security - It's just how you do things like this if you're planning on doing a proper job.

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29th Apr 15 at 13:43

Not sure why there's so many stories on about potential problems for people hiring cars abroad because some companies don't know about the change. Just take your counterpart, if they know no better, then they'll accept it as they normally would.

pow

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29th Apr 15 at 15:40

IAM will be up in arms, few emails flying around already.

DaveyLC

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29th Apr 15 at 15:44

Why do the IAM care?

pow

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29th Apr 15 at 16:07

Full of old people = nothing better to do with their time

DaveyLC

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29th Apr 15 at 16:23

Sort of sad twats that would vote UKIP to get the smoking rooms back?

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