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stan_the_man
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6th Aug 16 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sounds stupid i know but bear with me....

Just bought a smashed Astra. Front ender. But the sump is holed too.

Before i go to the hassle of swapping sumps, i want to make sure the engine is good because if its fucked its getting scrapped. Just want it to fire once and switch off.

Do Astras have some kind of sensor to prevent you starting with no/low oil?

*applies flame suit*
Ian
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6th Aug 16 at 14:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Probably running when the oil was dropped in which case there's a likelihood of damage.

Although sump swap and run it would be preferable to scrapping a good one, only one way to find out for sure.
stan_the_man
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6th Aug 16 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The sump damage doesnt fit with the rest though so i suspect its been holed at the salvage yard. Im quite confident the engine is good but just want to be sure.
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6th Aug 16 at 14:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That's better news then.
Generation
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6th Aug 16 at 20:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Start it while Somebody is pouring oil in? If it's literally for a second
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Start it while Somebody is pouring oil in? If it's literally for a second


Please video this
Generation
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7th Aug 16 at 16:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't really see the issue.

Temporarily block the hole, so at least oil is in there. Car isn't moving, so even create some
Sort of deal with bit of sheet metal held in place tightly with a trolley jack

[Edited on 07-08-2016 by Generation]
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Doubtful you can seal it, if you're going to run with oil in then ideally it needs repairing. Fit one, run it, see what happens. Any other bodge with a hole in the engine is just going to leave you spending longer cleaning the garage that it would have taken to fit a sump.
Generation
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7th Aug 16 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I don't mean perma seal it, as car is stationary it should be easy enough to test. As long as is a case of soon as fires you turn it off.
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This thread is full of stupid especially the comment about pouring oil in..

If you run it dry it will fuck it's self in seconds.
Generation
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Must be true if Davey says it

8' not talking about running it for 10 seconds and driving it.

I'm talking oil fully in, temporarily sealed and switched off second t fires.

Obviously IDEALLY you'd replace broken shit and do it, however if he doesn't want to spend money, those are the options
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Must be true if Davey says it

8' not talking about running it for 10 seconds and driving it.

I'm talking oil fully in, temporarily sealed and switched off second t fires.

Obviously IDEALLY you'd replace broken shit and do it, however if he doesn't want to spend money, those are the options


You suggested someone pour oil in.. You realise how an engine works right?
Ellis
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Generation
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12th Aug 16 at 08:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yup. Have that exact same engine in my car, fitted by me.
I also said temporarily seal it. I missed that off original
Post assumed was obvious so included it later on.


But heat, if it strengthens your argument, you carry on. Winning arguments on here seems to make you happy
DaveyLC
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I see you've edited out your ridiculous comments
Generation
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I haven't edited anything since you replied, can see that from the edit dates
Once again, if makes it easier for you, then I'm
Happy for you.
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Start it while Somebody is pouring oil in? If it's literally for a second


My bad, didn't see it was still here
3CorsaMeal
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12th Aug 16 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Crack an egg in it, works.
Generation
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12th Aug 16 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Then I elaborated below that post- like I've already said.


Typical Davey, picking and choosing which parts to
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