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SetH
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19th May 03 at 09:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How do the cars compare in terms of performance?

anyone know the 0-60, 0-100, 30-70 times etc?

Thanks.
GIBBS
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in magazines etc.. i have read the focus RS is quicker most times, Type R has higher top end (obviously) and aparantly the RS handles better also. but is it worth the extra 4g ?
Ojc
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RS is better and faster.
Ojc
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The Astra GSi beats them all for me, and is faster top end.
SetH
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quote:
but is it worth the extra 4g?


Maybe in the long run? i can see the civic depreciating quite a bit whilst the focus will hold its value much better.
neiliosxi
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A mate of mine has jusr sold his 1.8 sri and is waiting for his focus RS, 19 years old Alright for some!
jm960326
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My mates just bought the type R, its so nice to drive and quick. Between the two, RS are going to be less comman, as type R's are everywhere!

I'd have the focus as it RS turbo, but the Civic has all the kit and looks nice too, tough call!
Tom
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Focus rs would be better imo and less common but it's a ford.

I'd have a the astra gsi turbo.
Phil Hall
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I'd go for the RS, I like Focus's and as said they are less common.
SetH
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nobody got any performance figures then?, ive had a hunt round the net cant find anything
Ojc
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0-60's are very simular, but as the CTR lacks torque I should imagine that the in-gear times for the RS would be a lot better.
SetH
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yeah my thoughts too.
nik
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Actually the in gear times are VERY goods for the CTR. I've raced many 'faster' cars and not been shown up at all against M3's/M5's etc etc obviously over a certain speed their bigger engines will pull away. The astra gsi looks pants, focus is nice but steep for what you get. Civic handles spot on and is a fantastic car for the money. And someone saying it will depreciate badly = wrong. An article in the Times expects the Civic to hold its value really well over the next few years. I'd imagine the Focus to hold too but not the Astra.
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Try hitting the vtec in 3rd gear and your see what I mean, not a lot will keep up.
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Civic type-r 0-60 - 6.8 secs
Focus RS 0-60 - 4.9 secs

No comparison really. Handles better than a Subaru Impreza WRX, looks to die for, huge Brembo brakes, 18" OZ 5-spoke alloys. Nice interior. I know what i would have. Focus RS 1/4 mile time must be killer.
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The Astra is Not competent enough to compete against these 2 cars IMHO.
nik
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Civic type-r 0-60 - 6.8 secs
Focus RS 0-60 - 4.9 secs

No comparison really. Handles better than a Subaru Impreza WRX, looks to die for, huge Brembo brakes, 18" OZ 5-spoke alloys. Nice interior. I know what i would have. Focus RS 1/4 mile time must be killer.


Erm, I think you might want to check your stats there. The Focus RS does 0-60 in about 6...
jm960326
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thats a 2sec difference!
Cybermonkey
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Buggerererer. Its 6.4. Im sure someone stated it was 4.9 stock.

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nik's right about the depreciation my cousin has just been looking a an ex-demonstrator one with 5K on the clock and it only lost £1K.
Cybermonkey
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Well at least The Stig drove it around the track faster than an impreza. G-Forces were incredible IIRC
Phil Hall
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The Stig blows goats!
Cybermonkey
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The Stig does not blow you. He is an awesome driver whoever he is.

Dave
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Vehicle:- Civic / Astra
BHP:- 197 / 197
0-30:- 2.7 / 2.6
mph
0-60:- 6.7 / 6.6
mph
0-100:- 16.2 / 17.3
mph
1/4 Mile:- 15.2 / 15.2
Seconds
1/4 Mile:- 96 / 94
mph

Pretty evenly matched. Civic quicker to 100 by a second.

Can't find the RS specs..
Cybermonkey
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Yes but the Astra looks too standard. It dont feel special.

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