paul_spurrell
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Hi,
I'm new to wireless networking. I want to connect my PC to my Dads PC and run the ADSL from his PC.
Has anyone done this? What do I need to buy?
Cheers
Paul
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willay
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two wireless cards, one in each, the one which is connected to the internet via the ADSL needs to run a program to route your requests to the internet, called a Proxy, windows 2000 and XP have its own 'internet connection sharing' stuff.
If you have no clue what you need to do or setup, ask a mate who knows what hes doing and ask him to set it up, better then getting all the gear and complaining on here
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Trotty
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Righty, you'll need 2 wireless access points (plug in via USB or internal types) and a wireless ADSL router. The ADSL will plug straight into the router and both PC's will access it via the wireless access points. The router will also take care of the DHCP for your internal network if you want it to.
Netgear do some pretty good kits which contain all the kit required.
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willay
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only if it was that easy eh trott
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paul_spurrell
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well i know how to do networking. Just never done wireless. I dont want to buy kit which i dont need
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paul_spurrell
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thanks for the help
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Trotty
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To be fair it is pretty straight forward. I've set this up a couple of times now and have never had too much trouble.
Forgot to ask though, what OS's are you running?
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paul_spurrell
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l33t corsa
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2 wireless pci cards or usb adapters... run in ad hoc mode... and then just share the connection as you would with a wired network.
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willay
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if you have done networking with wire then you shouldnt have too much trouble...
IMO i think trotty is asking to buy too much kit, if you want to save money and already have a ADSL modem then you dont need all that wireless ADSL modem/switch bizz, you can just get away with two wireless cards...
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willay
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AD HOC! thank you l33t corsa.
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Trotty
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Pah! ICS smells of wee, plus you need to keep the other PC turned on?
Why not pay a little bit more and get a router instead?
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willay
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ok dont run ICS, get some proper proxy software, OR EVEN BETTER, get another box dedicated to do the routing and run FreeBSD on it.
I'm thinking in geek mode, not sensiblesaveonelectrics mode. Depends what he wants eh.
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Trotty
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But that's even more hassle! Just buy a bloody router - dead easy to manage and install, what more do you want?
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willay
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routers suck, they have shit features and dont give enough freedom, trotty you have let your geek roots down, go hang yourself.
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Trotty
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Then you haven't used decent routers
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paul_spurrell
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So if i was to buy this:
Netgear MR314
Integrated wireless Broadband router and Access Point
Enables Cable/DSL modem connection sharing via built-in 4-port 10/100Mbps switch
Up to Robust control features including web content filtering, logging, reporting and alerts
Wireless or wired Internet access through a broadband modem with an Ethernet port.
NAT routing security
Virtual Private Network (VPN) pass-through support
Limited 5 year warranty on unit, 2 years power adapter
All I would need is the two cards for the PC or I could just buy a access point instead??
Sorry to sound thick
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willay
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if you want to go trotts route..
you need..
two wireless CARDS (or you can get the usb devices = gay!) for the two computers.
one Wireless Access Point/Router, pretty much what you describe above.
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Trotty
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Well, if the PC running the ADSL at the moment has got an ethernet card you could plug that into the router, and you'd just need 1 access point for the other PC
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Steven Brough
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Yeah, just beware to ensure the channels they operate on are the same and the SSID is the same on all wireless devices!
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paul_spurrell
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Yes i do have a on board Lan on my mo/bo
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paul_spurrell
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SSID??
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willay
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and you have the access point doing mac filtering, to stop evil bandwidth stealing monkeys
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willay
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just ignore us and buy the gear, you can worry about the configuration later
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Steven Brough
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You would be better off finding a router with a built in modem, which is what i use, this way your dads PC wont have to be switched on for you to use the ADSL.
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