Recaro1
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I play squash during the week and drink water whilst I play.
But I wondered if theres any drink people would suggest I try to help me play.
Is lucozade any good?
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Marc
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lucozade sport?
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DanielJ
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luccy sport is the bollox
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Andy Stocker
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Stella
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Sooty
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same as above, but not for sport.. to work
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vibrio
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I drink water. isotonic stuff is shite really
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Recaro1
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2 for luccy, 2 for beer and 1 for water
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mike16v
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lucozade after sport. water during
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Andy Stocker
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When I used to train in swimming it was just cold water.
Competing varied between cordials & isotonic lucozade
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Andy
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Here you go - a summary of sports drinks written by my own hand and published a couple of years ago. Will explain most of what you need to know. Copyright still resides with publishing mag though, so keep it for you own personal use
"A bag of salty water may not sound very flattering but it’s a pretty fair description of your body! According to evolutionists, life on land only became possible when organisms developed means of taking their own ‘bit of sea’ with them. Although humans are far removed from those humble beginnings, we still carry our own bit of ‘sea water’ within us– about one gallon for every stone of body weight - containing all the right mineral salts for our optimum physical function. Once we start losing even small amounts of this fluid, we suffer. A loss of just 1% of body weight through dehydration can significantly reduce performance. A loss 2-3% will lead to the onset of fatigue and cramps. Even greater losses can lead to heat stroke, coma and even death. Hydration then is vital for anybody in serious training and is especially important in hot conditions (with increased sweating when losses are more rapid) or during long events. This explains the growing popularity of sports drinks in the kit bag, which aim to not only keep the volume and concentration of this salty water constant, but may also supply useful carbohydrates for hard working muscles to boot.
For muscles to contract continually they need 3 things.
1) Water.
2) Electrolyte minerals (sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium), which help provide the electrical stimulus required to ‘fire’ the muscle fibres.
3) Glycogen, a high grade fuel made from carbohydrates and which can be actually stored in the muscles.
The first priority for any athlete is to maintain water and electrolyte levels, where even small losses can have disastrous consequences. Athletes in participating in longer events (90+ minutes), or those with high volumes of weekly training also face the problem of glycogen depletion (which can severely dent any high intensity training programme) and may benefit from drinks containing added carbohydrate.
Sports drinks fall into three categories:
1) Fluid and electrolyte replacement drinks
2) Energy replacement drinks
3) Energy Gels
Fluid/electrolyte drinks aim to provide fluid and electrolytes in an ‘isotonic’ form i.e. the same concentration (or ‘saltiness’) as blood plasma. Research has shown that the water in isotonic drinks is absorbed from the stomach more rapidly than pure water alone. The added electrolyte minerals help to make the drink isotonic and to replace minerals lost through sweating. Fluid replacement drinks are especially useful in hot conditions where copious sweating occurs or where the event is over 1 hour long. Some fluid replacement drinks also provide small amounts of carbohydrate, but this is often in order to help make the drink isotonic rather than to supply large amounts for muscle glycogen replenishment. Ready mixed drinks can be very expensive – it’s a better bet to buy drinks in powdered form and mix your own. This also allows you to fine tune for taste preferences. If funds are really tight, you can make your own cheap and cheerful fluid/electrolyte replacement drink by taking a litre of pure orange juice and adding a litre of water and half a teaspoon of table salt. While not as technically advanced as some of the better products out there, it is at least reasonably pleasant tasting!
Energy drinks aim to replace energy (and fluid) by supplying soluble carbohydrates in a drink form. The advantage of using soluble carbohydrate (rather than eating solid food) is that little or no digestion is needed, which means that these drinks can be consumed during training or competition, helping to delay the onset of glycogen depletion. However, there’s far more to making a decent energy replacement drink than just dissolving a load of sugar in water and bottling it. This is because simple sugars such as sucrose (table sugar), glucose and fructose release their energy to the body very rapidly. While this does provide a quick burst of energy, the downside is that (all too often) this energy boost is followed by a ‘sugar crash’ a short while later. To make things worse, sugary drinks that are concentrated enough to supply useful amounts of carbohydrate, also exert a high ‘osmotic pressure’ in the stomach. This means they draw fluid into the stomach from the rest of the body, resulting in poor absorption, abdominal bloating and cramps – hardly desirable! The better energy drinks get round this by supplying carbohydrate in the form of malto-dextrins or, better still, as glucose polymers. These behave much more like starchy carbohydrates in the body, releasing their energy much more gradually and also exert a far lower osmotic pressure in the stomach. This means that you can take significant amounts of carbohydrate in a drink and still benefit from rapid absorption without sugar crashes or bloating effects. The drawback though is cost. Long chain glucose polymers in particular are not cheap! Finally, it’s worth pointing out that although these drinks also supply fluid, the presence of significant amounts of carbohydrate tends to mean that the water is not absorbed quite as quickly as water in fluid replacement drinks.
Energy gels are a fairly recent development. The best examples (such as those developed by Science in Sport) provide soluble carbohydrate in a gel-like form, which is consumed directly from the sachet. The gels supply carbohydrate in an isotonic form (for rapid absorption), with a minimum of added water. Gels are useful for those occasions when only water is available, or the supply of your normal energy drink cannot be guaranteed - for example at race feeding stations. By consuming the gel and drinking water, you can ensure that energy and fluid replacement needs are met – wherever you are.
SPORTS DRINKS TIPS
-Always read labels and check the quality of what you’re buying. Some so-called sports drinks are nothing more than exorbitantly priced sugary water.
-Don’t make the mistake of using a new drink for the first time in a race situation. Always test it out in training first.
-If you follow a high carbohydrate diet, workouts of less than an hour are more likely to benefit from fluid replacement rather than energy drinks. However energy drinks can assist recovery.
-Don’t just think about hydration during training or racing. Keep well hydrated at ALL times by drinking plenty of fresh water. If your urine is any darker than a pale straw colour, you’re dehydrated.
-Remember that the bulk of your energy should be coming from high quality complex carbohydrates in your daily diet, rather than from sports drinks
-Make sure you consume plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables (rich in potassium and magnesium) and some dairy produce (rich in calcium) to maintain electrolyte mineral balance. Don’t worry about sodium – most diets contain too much rather than too little."
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paul_spurrell
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water is the best
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Andy
Here you go - a summary of sports drinks written by my own hand and published a couple of years ago. Will explain most of what you need to know. Copyright still resides with publishing mag though, so keep it for you own personal use
"A bag of salty water may not sound very flattering but it’s a pretty fair description of your body! According to evolutionists, life on land only became possible when organisms developed means of taking their own ‘bit of sea’ with them. Although humans are far removed from those humble beginnings, we still carry our own bit of ‘sea water’ within us– about one gallon for every stone of body weight - containing all the right mineral salts for our optimum physical function. Once we start losing even small amounts of this fluid, we suffer. A loss of just 1% of body weight through dehydration can significantly reduce performance. A loss 2-3% will lead to the onset of fatigue and cramps. Even greater losses can lead to heat stroke, coma and even death. Hydration then is vital for anybody in serious training and is especially important in hot conditions (with increased sweating when losses are more rapid) or during long events. This explains the growing popularity of sports drinks in the kit bag, which aim to not only keep the volume and concentration of this salty water constant, but may also supply useful carbohydrates for hard working muscles to boot.
For muscles to contract continually they need 3 things.
1) Water.
2) Electrolyte minerals (sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium), which help provide the electrical stimulus required to ‘fire’ the muscle fibres.
3) Glycogen, a high grade fuel made from carbohydrates and which can be actually stored in the muscles.
The first priority for any athlete is to maintain water and electrolyte levels, where even small losses can have disastrous consequences. Athletes in participating in longer events (90+ minutes), or those with high volumes of weekly training also face the problem of glycogen depletion (which can severely dent any high intensity training programme) and may benefit from drinks containing added carbohydrate.
Sports drinks fall into three categories:
1) Fluid and electrolyte replacement drinks
2) Energy replacement drinks
3) Energy Gels
Fluid/electrolyte drinks aim to provide fluid and electrolytes in an ‘isotonic’ form i.e. the same concentration (or ‘saltiness’) as blood plasma. Research has shown that the water in isotonic drinks is absorbed from the stomach more rapidly than pure water alone. The added electrolyte minerals help to make the drink isotonic and to replace minerals lost through sweating. Fluid replacement drinks are especially useful in hot conditions where copious sweating occurs or where the event is over 1 hour long. Some fluid replacement drinks also provide small amounts of carbohydrate, but this is often in order to help make the drink isotonic rather than to supply large amounts for muscle glycogen replenishment. Ready mixed drinks can be very expensive – it’s a better bet to buy drinks in powdered form and mix your own. This also allows you to fine tune for taste preferences. If funds are really tight, you can make your own cheap and cheerful fluid/electrolyte replacement drink by taking a litre of pure orange juice and adding a litre of water and half a teaspoon of table salt. While not as technically advanced as some of the better products out there, it is at least reasonably pleasant tasting!
Energy drinks aim to replace energy (and fluid) by supplying soluble carbohydrates in a drink form. The advantage of using soluble carbohydrate (rather than eating solid food) is that little or no digestion is needed, which means that these drinks can be consumed during training or competition, helping to delay the onset of glycogen depletion. However, there’s far more to making a decent energy replacement drink than just dissolving a load of sugar in water and bottling it. This is because simple sugars such as sucrose (table sugar), glucose and fructose release their energy to the body very rapidly. While this does provide a quick burst of energy, the downside is that (all too often) this energy boost is followed by a ‘sugar crash’ a short while later. To make things worse, sugary drinks that are concentrated enough to supply useful amounts of carbohydrate, also exert a high ‘osmotic pressure’ in the stomach. This means they draw fluid into the stomach from the rest of the body, resulting in poor absorption, abdominal bloating and cramps – hardly desirable! The better energy drinks get round this by supplying carbohydrate in the form of malto-dextrins or, better still, as glucose polymers. These behave much more like starchy carbohydrates in the body, releasing their energy much more gradually and also exert a far lower osmotic pressure in the stomach. This means that you can take significant amounts of carbohydrate in a drink and still benefit from rapid absorption without sugar crashes or bloating effects. The drawback though is cost. Long chain glucose polymers in particular are not cheap! Finally, it’s worth pointing out that although these drinks also supply fluid, the presence of significant amounts of carbohydrate tends to mean that the water is not absorbed quite as quickly as water in fluid replacement drinks.
Energy gels are a fairly recent development. The best examples (such as those developed by Science in Sport) provide soluble carbohydrate in a gel-like form, which is consumed directly from the sachet. The gels supply carbohydrate in an isotonic form (for rapid absorption), with a minimum of added water. Gels are useful for those occasions when only water is available, or the supply of your normal energy drink cannot be guaranteed - for example at race feeding stations. By consuming the gel and drinking water, you can ensure that energy and fluid replacement needs are met – wherever you are.
SPORTS DRINKS TIPS
-Always read labels and check the quality of what you’re buying. Some so-called sports drinks are nothing more than exorbitantly priced sugary water.
-Don’t make the mistake of using a new drink for the first time in a race situation. Always test it out in training first.
-If you follow a high carbohydrate diet, workouts of less than an hour are more likely to benefit from fluid replacement rather than energy drinks. However energy drinks can assist recovery.
-Don’t just think about hydration during training or racing. Keep well hydrated at ALL times by drinking plenty of fresh water. If your urine is any darker than a pale straw colour, you’re dehydrated.
-Remember that the bulk of your energy should be coming from high quality complex carbohydrates in your daily diet, rather than from sports drinks
-Make sure you consume plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables (rich in potassium and magnesium) and some dairy produce (rich in calcium) to maintain electrolyte mineral balance. Don’t worry about sodium – most diets contain too much rather than too little."
this something you written by any chance Andy
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Andy
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I only wrote it cos they paid me
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Andy
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quote: Originally posted by DanielJ
luccy sport is the bollox
No, luccy sport is bollox (and overpriced bollox)
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Andy Stocker
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A pinch of my salt in my orange squash was something else I tried during training
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Andy
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Wise man! How's that Nissan going Andy??
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vibrio
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it's going going hopefully gone
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Andy Stocker
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Yip bored of no £££ to spend on it.
So selling for an old Golf GTi or something.
Tired of spending oney on cars so i'll let someone else do that from now on
Gonna save my money for more important things from now on
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corb
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andy, what was that written for?? what do u do
and what drink would u reccomend during a long enduring sport, which involves short burtst of energy with 5 minute breaks?? (cricket, where i'm bowling with about a 5 minute break inbetween overs??) bearing in mind its normally hot weather anyway, so sweat without the exercise, let alone with it!!
Cheers, Corb.
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danny boyo
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lcozade is da best
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Gaz
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id personally just drink water i play football and i did play at a decent level for my age (a year)(town youth team) he would only let us drink water
it dosnt bloat u and it keeps u re-freashed
luccy is shitting it now cos they know its all bollox thats why they brought out luccy"water" - ment to be speacial water but its still WATER
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Andy
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quote: Originally posted by corb
andy, what was that written for?? what do u do
and what drink would u reccomend during a long enduring sport, which involves short burtst of energy with 5 minute breaks?? (cricket, where i'm bowling with about a 5 minute break inbetween overs??) bearing in mind its normally hot weather anyway, so sweat without the exercise, let alone with it!!
Cheers, Corb.
Written for Ultra-Fit Magazine. I write mainly about fitness and nutrition. The best hydration and energy replacement drinks I have come across are produced by a company called Science in Sport. Thay have a product called 'Go' which not only supplies long chain glucose polymers to maintain muslce glycogen, but which also allows easy absorption of fluid for hydration Look here: http://www.scienceinsport.com/Go.htm
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vibrio
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oh gluco chemistry
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stubbsy
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found that really interesting as im doing sport at uni and have briefly touched on this subject, knew about some of that but feel really knowledgable now would you recomend buying these magazines? do they have lots of articles like this in them?
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i get free lucozade sport from where i work....
Which is nice..
I drink it when i am riding races...
and when im working in the shop
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