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snottysnowy1
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   23rd Feb 08 at 15:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right my car is misfiring between 2-3k revs, i have had new plugs, new leads, new lambda sensor fitted, new cat fitted, water pump and timing belt etc done, check all the other sensors and my car is still jumping a lttle bit between that rev range... any ideas cause im stumped now
Need it to run smooth at them revs to get it through emmisions test during mot.. help me please
Richardhhha
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23rd Feb 08 at 15:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats the engine?
snottysnowy1
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23rd Feb 08 at 15:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol x16xe
jmdsouth
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23rd Feb 08 at 16:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what reg is your car? is it to new to do the paper clip test?
snottysnowy1
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23rd Feb 08 at 17:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my mate has the proper diagnostics equipment and we read that and all seems good sensor wise
Richie B
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23rd Feb 08 at 23:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

egr? map sensor? crankshaft sensor?
Richardhhha
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24th Feb 08 at 02:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

checked what the plugs are running like?

sounds like you might have a timing issue or something like a crached head.
snottysnowy1
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24th Feb 08 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

egr has been removed and blanked off so i know its not that, and timing has all been done last week.
Adam
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24th Feb 08 at 13:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine was missing a bit, cleaned up the air flow sensor and cave the air filter a good clean and recoat with the dirt retention spray and all worked ok agin
Scotty C
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24th Feb 08 at 13:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Coil?
snottysnowy1
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24th Feb 08 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

coil been checked already and everythng firing fine. Not cleaned the panel filter but i doubt it will be that to be fair as its fairly new anyway
snottysnowy1
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28th Feb 08 at 17:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

still got problems and it wont go through mot with the misfire... just happens between 2k-3k when stationary and applying throttle. Could it be injectors? and how do i go about cleaning these (ran redex through loads and still the same), panel filter could do with a bit of a clean i guess. Or could it be the head on the way out and if so how do i check this myself as the car runs fine apart from when idle at 2-3k revs.. need some advice ive spent nearly £600 trying to fix this
Dave A
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28th Feb 08 at 18:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

had exactly the same problem on a customers car recently. check the following:

coilpack
crank sensor
throttle position sensor
EGR valve (even if it is blocked off, very common cause for this problem)


diagnostioc tools wont always find a fault. If you want to bring it down to me one day just ring me to book it in, have every spare sensor available in stock to try and swop over, cheaper than buying new ones!
snottysnowy1
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28th Feb 08 at 18:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers mate, ill probably have to do that.. you fitted my torque tube and i know you know a hell of alot about these engines.. cheers again, ill have a look at what you suggested first and get back to you. I work through the week but have weekends off.
Vaux Lad
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28th Feb 08 at 18:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is the engine standard?
snottysnowy1
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28th Feb 08 at 18:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

only mods are different manifold and panel filter on the engine, oh and a ecotek valve i fitted to try and reduce emmisions, but that was put on after the misfire began.
Vaux Lad
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28th Feb 08 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Different inlet manifold?
snottysnowy1
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28th Feb 08 at 18:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah, torque tube = mantzel copy mate.
Vaux Lad
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28th Feb 08 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Weird you say that.
I have a mantzel copy too, and my engine has a "stutter" between 2-3k rpm.
I put it down to still running the standard ecu, as it wasn't like that when i had the standard manifold on!
snottysnowy1
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28th Feb 08 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mine was running fine though even after it had it fitted, i dont think its due to the standard management either, its just one of lives mysteries at the minute, im slowly building a new engine bit by bit with all the sensors and parts ive bought lately.

 
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