DaveyLC
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Location: Berkshire
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quote:
Originally posted by oceansoul
Try hacking my network then.....Ethernet FTW!!!
Nothing a trojen wouldnt sort out 
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MarkSport
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Registered: 22nd May 09
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Damn sorry forgot to mention,It is the wep password i have changed. 
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Ian W
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Registered: 8th Nov 03
Location: Wirral, Merseyside
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I wish people in my flats had unsecured access - i'd be right there stealing internetz 
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Rob_Lee
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Registered: 9th Dec 05
Location: Folkestone Drives: Nova 1.6 16v
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Fucking hell... info over load.
Someone tell me how i can at least kinda protect mine using this WPA shit
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sand-eel
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Registered: 15th Mar 07
Location: carluke/braidwood--IRNBRULAND
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mine is WPA2 
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sand-eel
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whats this packets? is it a computer request? if you request the password thousands of times the other computer gives up and gives you it?
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willay
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no, basically the implementation of the encryption of WEP was badly done, so you can exploit a weakness in it and crack it with a large amount of packets (about 15k of them).
The way to get loads of packets is to sit near their network and wait for a ARP request (ARP resolves mac addresses to ip addresses and vise versa). Once you have captured this ARP requested you can replay it to the access point as many times as you want and the computer will reply, thus generating more packets for you to capture to eventually crack.
Its not as easy as that, but if you have a google it will tell you the basic attack techniques for WEP.
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Neo
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Packets are pieces of data that get sent across the network.
A brute force attack goes through the full search space (basically a mathmatical algorithm) until eventually the correct pass is found. Messy and can be very slow.
Rob_Lee, using a cable, log onto your router, look at the wireless encryption and select WPA2. WPA2 is essentually WPA however doesnt use the TKIP algorithm that WEP and WPA use (which can easily be broken) [edit] As will has just described[/edit].
[Edited on 16-10-2009 by Neo]
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Neo
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bit behind you will
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Rob_Lee
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Neo, once done that do i need to do anything other than that? sounds bloody easy! haha
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sand-eel
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interesting indeed
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jamied
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Registered: 27th Oct 03
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loadssss of people around here steal internet, most of the papers sell high gain antennas. Lad at work uses a program called backtrack 3 i think and said it takes minutes usually to crack wep
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Rob_Lee
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Which is best??
Security Options
Disable
WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy)
WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key)
WPA2-PSK(Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)
WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK
WPA-802.1x
WPA2-802.1x
WPA-802.1x+WPA2-802.1x
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Wrighty
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Registered: 28th Feb 04
Location: Howden
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i just used wep, and will setup an access list later on...if anyones sad enough to sit and try crack a wep key for the sake of getting on the interenet...well theyre welcome to it in my eyes...sadddos!
my new routers dog slow though 
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Hammer
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Registered: 11th Feb 04
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Major acronym overload warning.
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Nic Barnes
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Registered: 5th Apr 04
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having a dog chained to the router wont help?
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John
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Registered: 30th Jun 03
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Backtrack is a linux distro.
WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK is the best (unless you know nothing uses WPA), some stuff still doesn't use WPA2, like phones, so its better to have both turned on imo.
This should definitely be in geek day.
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Chris F
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Double Dutch!
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Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
you can still find the SSID without it being broadcasted.
Sorry to hijack but I'm just going through this stuff you're on about but I'm getting a bit stuck on ^that point.
When ever I disable the broadcast my wireless disconnects and then won't pick it up again until I re-enable it yet when you find it through preferred networks and go into the properties, there's a tick box to connect even if the network isn't broadcasting which is ticked but it isn't working
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Cole
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Registered: 11th Nov 02
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im stealing my connection right now from my neighbour luckily thats my mum lol last night i nicked her router and plugged 40mtrs of extension cables out of the catflap through the garded over the fence back through my catflap through kitchen and into the lounge just to get on xbox live lol
[Edited on 18-10-2009 by Cole]
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
quote:
Originally posted by willay
you can still find the SSID without it being broadcasted.
Sorry to hijack but I'm just going through this stuff you're on about but I'm getting a bit stuck on ^that point.
When ever I disable the broadcast my wireless disconnects and then won't pick it up again until I re-enable it yet when you find it through preferred networks and go into the properties, there's a tick box to connect even if the network isn't broadcasting which is ticked but it isn't working
If you disable broadcasts you may have to re-enter it manually on your wireless clients.
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