Root
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Originally posted by dean101287
So lets tell him to change the head gasket just in case isit? Why doesn't he chage the piston rings just incase aswell?
Back to the topic...Do whats said above and change the oil/filter and take it for a good run and monitor oil/water levels.
cus the rings are more than an hour job and cost a lot more. A head gasket costs £14 and £14 for the bolts "is it"
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A head set costs £60 and timing kit costs £65 a water pump costs £25, Oil and filter costs £15 plus if he hasnt got the knowledge he's got to pay laybour and you must be some kind of super mechanic to do a head gasket change on a x16xe in an hour.
Or your full of shit. I think I know what one TBH.
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Root
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A head set costs £60 and timing kit costs £65 a water pump costs £25, Oil and filter costs £15 plus if he hasnt got the knowledge he's got to pay laybour and you must be some kind of super mechanic to do a head gasket change on a x16xe in an hour.
Or your full of shit. I think I know what one TBH.
well we're not talking about sets that are rip offs. Why buy pre-tensioners and cambelts when doing a head gasket, also why the oil filter and water pump? if it's just the gasket leaking, why the need for all this? there isn't. anyway mate, don't listen to this dickhead, find out if it needs fixing now cus if it does, it isn't a big job and it's cheap to do now rather than later.
Well, I havn't done one on a x16, but it'd be more or less an hour.
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Root]
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So after all this you have not even done one on an x16xe? F
Do me a favour and when or if you ever do, let me know how close to an hour it takes you.
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Root
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So after all this you have not even done one on an x16xe? F
Do me a favour and when or if you ever do, let me know how close to an hour it takes you.
k, whatever
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Terry12
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by dean101287
A head set costs £60 and timing kit costs £65 a water pump costs £25, Oil and filter costs £15 plus if he hasnt got the knowledge he's got to pay laybour and you must be some kind of super mechanic to do a head gasket change on a x16xe in an hour.
Or your full of shit. I think I know what one TBH.
well we're not talking about sets that are rip offs. Why buy pre-tensioners and cambelts when doing a head gasket, also why the oil filter and water pump? if it's just the gasket leaking, why the need for all this? there isn't. anyway mate, don't listen to this dickhead, find out if it needs fixing now cus if it does, it isn't a big job and it's cheap to do now rather than later.
Well, I havn't done one on a x16, but it'd be more or less an hour.
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Root]
Why would you remove and refit the head without replacing the cambelt, tensioner and water pump.
It's common practice to change all the timing parts when disturbed unless only recently changed.
Stop telling the lad to do a head gasket change without knowing the full story, You've just read mayo on the dipstick and jumped to conclusions
Best thing to do is drop the oil and see what comes out, If it is all white/mayo then there is a problem with the head/gasket. If there is a small amount of white then best to fit new filter and oil and monitor levels as suggested.
If the car isn't losing coolant then where would this mayo come from?
If he is worried about the headgasket then a compression test would be the way to go.
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Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by dean101287
A head set costs £60 and timing kit costs £65 a water pump costs £25, Oil and filter costs £15 plus if he hasnt got the knowledge he's got to pay laybour and you must be some kind of super mechanic to do a head gasket change on a x16xe in an hour.
Or your full of shit. I think I know what one TBH.
well we're not talking about sets that are rip offs. Why buy pre-tensioners and cambelts when doing a head gasket, also why the oil filter and water pump? if it's just the gasket leaking, why the need for all this? there isn't. anyway mate, don't listen to this dickhead, find out if it needs fixing now cus if it does, it isn't a big job and it's cheap to do now rather than later.
Well, I havn't done one on a x16, but it'd be more or less an hour.
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Root]
Why would you remove and refit the head without replacing the cambelt, tensioner and water pump.
It's common practice to change all the timing parts when disturbed unless only recently changed.
Stop telling the lad to do a head gasket change without knowing the full story, You've just read mayo on the dipstick and jumped to conclusions
Best thing to do is drop the oil and see what comes out, If it is all white/mayo then there is a problem with the head/gasket. If there is a small amount of white then best to fit new filter and oil and monitor levels as suggested.
If the car isn't losing coolant then where would this mayo come from?
If he is worried about the headgasket then a compression test would be the way to go.
because if they're not due to be changed, why change them if they're operating fine?
I actually said see if you have a problem and if you do, get the gasket changed before it causes further problems on one of the last posts.
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Terry12
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Originally posted by Root
if it's on the dipstick, this is definite cause for concern as it won't be just condensation, you should think about changing the head gasket asap before it does any damage.
This was your first post.
What you should have advised was to drop the oil, check water level and do a compression test (obviously with oil in the engine).
Telling somebody to think about whipping the head off without checking the above things is a little silly.
Having read your problems on another thread you do seem like a bodge it merchant
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Root
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Originally posted by Root
if it's on the dipstick, this is definite cause for concern as it won't be just condensation, you should think about changing the head gasket asap before it does any damage.
This was your first post.
What you should have advised was to drop the oil, check water level and do a compression test (obviously with oil in the engine).
Telling somebody to think about whipping the head off without checking the above things is a little silly.
Having read your problems on another thread you do seem like a bodge it merchant
Well i've not heard of it being condensation in the dipstick before, that's all. I would think that being it the sump, where oil is stored, it'd be a cause for concern to have mayo in there. I was wrong apparently. But no need to act like a massive dickhead about it. Well done, e-points to you
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by dean101287
A head set costs £60 and timing kit costs £65 a water pump costs £25, Oil and filter costs £15 plus if he hasnt got the knowledge he's got to pay laybour and you must be some kind of super mechanic to do a head gasket change on a x16xe in an hour.
Or your full of shit. I think I know what one TBH.
well we're not talking about sets that are rip offs. Why buy pre-tensioners and cambelts when doing a head gasket, also why the oil filter and water pump? if it's just the gasket leaking, why the need for all this? there isn't. anyway mate, don't listen to this dickhead, find out if it needs fixing now cus if it does, it isn't a big job and it's cheap to do now rather than later.
Well, I havn't done one on a x16, but it'd be more or less an hour.
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Root]
Why would you remove and refit the head without replacing the cambelt, tensioner and water pump.
It's common practice to change all the timing parts when disturbed unless only recently changed.
Stop telling the lad to do a head gasket change without knowing the full story, You've just read mayo on the dipstick and jumped to conclusions
Best thing to do is drop the oil and see what comes out, If it is all white/mayo then there is a problem with the head/gasket. If there is a small amount of white then best to fit new filter and oil and monitor levels as suggested.
If the car isn't losing coolant then where would this mayo come from?
If he is worried about the headgasket then a compression test would be the way to go.
because if they're not due to be changed, why change them if they're operating fine?
I actually said see if you have a problem and if you do, get the gasket changed before it causes further problems on one of the last posts.
Without knowing the history of the engine I can't advise on that. But if the cambelt is due to be changed within the next 10k miles I would change them anyway.
Personally I would change them regardless.
Next month I am swapping heads on my XE, The timing kit has done about 8k, I'll be changing it.
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I'm not trying to score points off you, I just don't see the need to whip the head off without doing some simples checks first.
The OP stated the water level hasn't dropped, If this is the case please explain where the water in the oil has come from?
He said mayo was on the dipstick, Which I have seen before without it being in the sump. It is possible the dipstick tube has condensation.
Instead of insulting me, Go buy a clue. Muppet.
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well usually i think they reccommend 60k for these vaux engines, personally, I'd change them if they're 20k+ for definite but anything less is not worth bothering IMO.
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Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
I'm not trying to score points off you, I just don't see the need to whip the head off without doing some simples checks first.
The OP stated the water level hasn't dropped, If this is the case please explain where the water in the oil has come from?
He said mayo was on the dipstick, Which I have seen before without it being in the sump. It is possible the dipstick tube has condensation.
Instead of insulting me, Go buy a clue. Muppet.
sorry, who began insulting who?
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Having read your problems on another thread you do seem like a bodge it merchant
and I do not believe, that not knowing a car can get condensation in the dipstick tube means you don't have a clue, as I said, I was wrong. Get over it
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well usually i think they reccommend 60k for these vaux engines, personally, I'd change them if they're 20k+ for definite but anything less is not worth bothering IMO.
40k or 4 years.
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
I'm not trying to score points off you, I just don't see the need to whip the head off without doing some simples checks first.
The OP stated the water level hasn't dropped, If this is the case please explain where the water in the oil has come from?
He said mayo was on the dipstick, Which I have seen before without it being in the sump. It is possible the dipstick tube has condensation.
Instead of insulting me, Go buy a clue. Muppet.
sorry, who began insulting who?
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Having read your problems on another thread you do seem like a bodge it merchant
and I do not believe, that not knowing a car can get condensation in the dipstick tube means you don't have a clue, as I said, I was wrong. Get over it
Hardly compares to being called a dickhead though does it.
Anyway stop filling the thread with crap.
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Root
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Originally posted by Root
well usually i think they reccommend 60k for these vaux engines, personally, I'd change them if they're 20k+ for definite but anything less is not worth bothering IMO.
40k or 4 years.
ooh, I thought it was more than that. Hmm, maybe I better think about changing them even more frequently than 20k then...that's worrying me now as my tensioner is about 15k old but cambelt and water pump are brand new
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shaun hornby
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probably the head gasket.
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Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by Terry12
I'm not trying to score points off you, I just don't see the need to whip the head off without doing some simples checks first.
The OP stated the water level hasn't dropped, If this is the case please explain where the water in the oil has come from?
He said mayo was on the dipstick, Which I have seen before without it being in the sump. It is possible the dipstick tube has condensation.
Instead of insulting me, Go buy a clue. Muppet.
sorry, who began insulting who?
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Having read your problems on another thread you do seem like a bodge it merchant
and I do not believe, that not knowing a car can get condensation in the dipstick tube means you don't have a clue, as I said, I was wrong. Get over it
Hardly compares to being called a dickhead though does it.
Anyway stop filling the thread with crap.
if you recall, I called you that after you said that. Anyway, I don't have a problem with you, I've accepted I was wrong and openly admitted it.
hope you sort the car (if there's anything wrong), M055360.
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probably the head gasket.
Don't you start!
Condensation in the dipstick tube isn't a myth!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/GASSING/topic.asp?h=0&f=72&t=811160&nmt=Ominous%20white%20deposits%20on%20dipstick%20%28E46%203er%29
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Terry12]
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Root
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Originally posted by shaun hornby
probably the head gasket.
Don't you start!
Condensation in the dipstick tube isn't a myth!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/GASSING/topic.asp?h=0&f=72&t=811160&nmt=Ominous%20white%20deposits%20on%20dipstick%20%28E46%203er%29
[Edited on 03-03-2010 by Terry12]
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wish i had the mechanic skill to just do it all myself, but to be fair water level hasn;t dropped and it doesn't overheat at all. could have sumin to do with the snow was sat of the drive covered in snow for well over a week, all those cold starts and short journeys.
gonna drop the oil and flush everything out and replace oil filter and keep an eye on it.
if the head gasket did properly go i'd get a new head anyways
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no need to get a new head if HG has gone, its just more expense thats not needed, if you put a new head on you still have to change the same stuff as just doiong HG
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lmao half of these coments are hilarious !!
im doing a engine rebuild on my x16xe and its taking me 4eva. possibly 1 of the worst heads ive ever removed on a car due to no room which is y u wudnt just replace the HG if ur unsure.
so yh, replace the oil n filter n keep an eye out, but as scotty said, it'd be pointless to get another head 4 it. no need mate. good luck
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Terry12
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It'll be condensation mate if your levels are fine.
When it gets cold you get a layer of condensation on metals and as the inside of your engine is metal that too will get condensation. As soon as you start the car it mixes with the oil and you get that white mayo crap.
I wouldn't worry if it isn't overheating or losing water. Just keep a close eye on the temp gauge and water/oil levels.
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