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Author Update on xe :(
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23rd Jan 11 at 20:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Whats cutting the engine out? fuel or spark? It has both
IE when the engine stops has the fuel been cut or has it stop sparking? I dont know..
Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1 - - will try this.

Will the engine fire right up once you take the key back out and start again? IE fire up without any problems?

No it chokes abit (As if plugs are to wet) then starts up

Any engine Faultcodes?
Not as yet
BeArDy
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23rd Jan 11 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

getting somewhere now.
IF you are 100% sure there is fuel and spark AT ALL TIMES so non of them are being cut to stop the engine from working.

An Engine needs Air - Fuel - Spark.

Pull out the plugs, look in the back of any haynes manuel there is a photo of a range of plugs from Lean to Rich.
Have a look and tell me what you find.

BUT you have the last 2 (Spark and Fuel) from the checks you have done, this means you have a problem on your air side.

ICV? is this stuck open? have you tried clamping the pipe shut?
Air Flow Meter have you test this?



100% check as i need this infomation - Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark and fuel spraying out of the plug hole when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1
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23rd Jan 11 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
getting somewhere now.
IF you are 100% sure there is fuel and spark AT ALL TIMES so non of them are being cut to stop the engine from working.

An Engine needs Air - Fuel - Spark.

Pull out the plugs, look in the back of any haynes manuel there is a photo of a range of plugs from Lean to Rich.
Have a look and tell me what you find.

BUT you have the last 2 (Spark and Fuel) from the checks you have done, this means you have a problem on your air side.

ICV? is this stuck open? have you tried clamping the pipe shut? = Have not tried this, not 100% on this
Air Flow Meter have you test this? = How do I test this?



100% check as i need this infomation - Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark and fuel spraying out of the plug hole when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1


Cant try some of this tomorrow, but don't get home until gone 7, and pitch black where the car is kept!


thanks for help so far
madcorsakid
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25th Jan 11 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

we have just put x14xe engine in ma mates corsa starts runs turned it off cause wining coming from timing side started it back up then died only stays started wen reved i no wat the problem is but finding the god dam hose is a nightmare and that the one for the icv to throttle body not connected up also on my xe corsa the throttlebody hose that goes to your icv check it for splits as mines kept blowing off and cutting out all fixed now so tbh a think your problem lies there
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25th Jan 11 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thanks will try above when next of work!


Exhaust manifold its not connected atm (new one ordered) so lambda not plugged in!

Also powercap
Not bolted dowb fully as need trim bulkhead abit
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Would this effect it?
Mertin
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25th Jan 11 at 19:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

With no manifold there wont be any back pressure either? Maybe best to get all that little bits sorted first so that its 100% built
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25th Jan 11 at 20:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Getting manifold connected is a garage job as needs sleeve welded to it trouble is getting there lol
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25th Jan 11 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

FLOL
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25th Jan 11 at 23:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Laugh all you like. I have the last laugh in the fact I'm English.
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not really a last laugh. its well known the english fled to scotland/wales so wouldnt get killed in the old times or bummed by the romans lol, but on a more serious note....may be worth just getting the ex manifold on and bodging a connecting piece for now?
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26th Jan 11 at 07:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You're referring to a different generation of people....
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26th Jan 11 at 08:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't try to look for other problems while you've got known problems. Get an ecotec pipe or something to connect the air inlet up, if the powercap that's on just now isn't even close to the TB that's going to cause problems as well.

Why does the manifold need to be sleeved? So when you've tried starting it up it's not had an exhaust manifold on or the lambda plugged in?

You need to get it ready to run before you try to run it. It's basic stuff.

[Edited on 26-01-2011 by alan-g-w]
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26th Jan 11 at 11:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by connollygt30
FLOL
You still not bored yet? How's the engine sale going btw?
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26th Jan 11 at 13:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Manifold
Needs be sleeved as flange only on cat
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26th Jan 11 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So it needs a flange welded on? Or is it not long enough?

That above didn't make sense.
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26th Jan 11 at 17:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sorry needs a flange. Cant have welded on as dobe know how much was cut off with old one
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26th Jan 11 at 17:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't*
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So why not just temp fit the manifold but just don't join it up to the cat? So that you can have the lambda set up properly.
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26th Jan 11 at 19:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by dragon2309
quote:
Originally posted by connollygt30
FLOL
You still not bored yet? How's the engine sale going btw?


You not bored of trying to do sucessfull redtop conversions? decided to keep it after realising the lack of good redtops out there as you are witnessing trying to get that dog running
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26th Jan 11 at 21:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ConversionS? Just one going on ? Bored? Nope or would of stopped, simple answer really!


Not like i rely on a corsa as part of my life LMAO

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